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Treacodactyl
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 4:02 pm Post subject: Mineral rights

Does anyone know much about them? I notice land is often sold without mineral rights and I'm sure you don't tend to own them when you buy a house. I'm not interest in opening an open cast mine in my back garden but what can the owner of the rights do with them? Can they happily mine under your land or even force you off while they mine away? How can you track down the owners of the rights and would it be worth trying to buy them yourself?

I'm not sure how much of a mine field this topic is.

(sorry but I thought I'd get the pun in first).

sean
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 4:36 pm Post subject:
I think that you don't get the mineral rights to stop you from opening a mine in suburbia. AFAIK the mineral rights are retained by 'The Crown'.

nora

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 4:38 pm Post subject:
I was wondering about this too as I saw on the details for a property in Scotland : Mineral rights- "these are included in so far as the seller has any right to them". https://www.bellingram.co.uk/property-sales/kylesku.html

judith

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 4:57 pm Post subject:
When you buy it, can I come and stay please, Nora? That looks absolutely stunning.

tahir

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 5:00 pm Post subject:

Judith wrote:

When you buy it, can I come and stay please, Nora? That looks absolutely stunning.

Me too

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 5:53 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

I think that you don't get the mineral rights to stop you from opening a mine in suburbia. AFAIK the mineral rights are retained by 'The Crown'.

I've seen a piece of land that says "mineral rights are retained by a previous owner".

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 6:14 pm Post subject:
Ours is like that- the houses were built in the 1890s by the various coal mines, and the deeds all retain a right to mine coal under the houses if they should ever want to (very unlikely), but a lot of Wales is like that as far as I can tell

nora

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 7:23 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Judith wrote:

When you buy it, can I come and stay please, Nora? That looks absolutely stunning.

Me too

Unfortunately I havn't the money to buy it

but I was heavily daydreaming so read through all the details, thats when I noticed the minerals bit. If any of you want to go for it feel free, looks perfect doesn't it?

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 7:25 pm Post subject:
It does look wonderful, but its seriously north, which means mega hard winters, so you'd have to be feeling really hardy. If I had the money I'd be there like a shot though. Not sure about the sheep...

dpack

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 9:08 pm Post subject:
mineral rights ,not in my national park, its complicated see nine ladies website etc

judyofthewoods

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 05 10:35 pm Post subject:

Don't know a lot about mineral rights, but even if someone else has them, they would still need planning permission to extract/mine whatever they wanted to extract/mine. Might be worth finding out if planning permission has possibly already been granted in the past and is still valid but has not been acted upon yet. There was a case here in Wales a few years ago when a mining company wanted to dust off some old permission and start open cast mining on some ecologically sensitive patch. Don't know what became of it though.

sean
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 05 6:02 am Post subject:
A bit of googling shows it to all be very complicated. A government summary is here.

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