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tahir



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 05 11:51 am    Post subject: The Wine Programme Reply with quote
    

Radio 4 Monday 16:00 The Wine Programme
Series in which Oz Clarke and Andrew Jefford celebrate the pleasure of wine. They share oenological experiences with celebrity guests and offer listeners an interactive tasting. [Rptd Sun 12.30pm]

sean
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 05 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Quite like Andrew Jefford, never really thought he fitted in at The Standard. Oz, despite his buffoonish TV persona, is actually really knowledgeable and a brilliant taster. I reckon this should be worth a listen.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 05 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Who did the series with Floyd? we've often fancied learning a bit more about wine but don't fancy going on a tasting course where people seem to consentrate more on money than wine.

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Can't remember. If you want to do a course then the WSET courses(Wine and Spirits Education Trust), used to be trade only but are open to civilians nowadays. A quick google should find someone near you offering them. They offer a good grounding, and the qualifications are recognised as worth while should you ever need a job in the field.

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Civie wine drinker. I'm not sure a course would be good round these parts. If the people are anything like our neighbours.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 05 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The civilian idea came from training new staff. If you're working with wine then I don't care whether you like it or not, I want you to be able to tell me if it's good or not, and why.
For example I can't stand gewurztraminer, but when I was working I still needed to be able to talk to customers about the wines.

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I'm comming from the other direction. I don't think I'll ever work with wine, but I drink a fair amount and would like to know some more. I have a few books, know roughly what I like but would like to know a bit more (what to look for in a young wine for it to be a good ager for example).

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A course would work, or you could try to find a decent wine-merchant near you. Anyone worth his salt is going to remember regular customers and what they like, and should be able to broaden your horizons for you.
The ageing thing is problematic, nearly all wine is drunk too young, except for the stuff that's drunk too old. The best way to work it out for yourself is to buy a case of something with moderate potential such as Guigal's Cotes du Rhone, open a bottle every 6-12 months and write tasting notes each time. There's no such thing as perfect maturity, only perfect maturity for you.
For ageing potential you're looking for a young wine with a lot of everything, particularly fruit and tannin (unless it's pinot noir when you're looking for acidity).

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 05 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think Andrew Jefford's an excellent presenter, should be good

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 05 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
I think Andrew Jefford's an excellent presenter, should be good

His real ambition in life is to earn a living by having his poetry published. Which is unlikely, but he is a really nice bloke.

twoscoops



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonathan Pendly, a typically geeky master of wine.

Can strongly recommend Hugh Johnson and Jancis Robinson's World Atlas of Wine (or just by HJ if you pick up an older copy, which you can do quite cheaply). It is by far the best wine book of all I have seen.

One tasting I did with Oz Clark ended with him drinking out of the bottle, he was so plastered.

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