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mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
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Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 3:34 pm Post subject:
I use two upright freezers: chest freezers don't help my back. They're in the wash house which is always cool, and I'm going to add another when the pigs arrive. I'd love to do the cellar in the hill thing: we've got the hill, but it's pretty solid rock. Maybe we could create a mound...

jema
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 3:41 pm Post subject:

mochyn wrote:

I'd love to do the cellar in the hill thing: we've got the hill, but it's pretty solid rock. Maybe we could create a mound...

Might be the sort of thing a mechanical digger would make short work of though?

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
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Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 3:44 pm Post subject:
Hmmm... someone around here must have one...

ButteryHOLsomeness

Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 770

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 5:21 pm Post subject:

mochyn wrote:

Hmmm... someone around here must have one...

why not offer to barter with them for something...

i actually have cellar envy now...how sad is that?

jema
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 5:26 pm Post subject:

ButteryHOLsomeness wrote:

mochyn wrote:

Hmmm... someone around here must have one...

why not offer to barter with them for something...

i actually have cellar envy now...how sad is that?

Same here

Whoud not expect anyone to own a digger though, I think you pretty much have to hire.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 5:34 pm Post subject:
The daft thing about freezers is most 'home' ones need to be kept somewhere warm. I'm sure they should be kept above 10�C or something like that. If I don't leave the rad in our kitchen on sometimes the fridge stops working overnight.

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 8:18 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

The daft thing about freezers is most 'home' ones need to be kept somewhere warm. ...

Nah!

A well-insulated appliance, not opened, shouldn't have much to do...
The cooler the room, the less work the freezer/fridge has to do. Surely. the only problem when the room is really cold is that any condensate might freeze before draining away.
I do believe however that relatively few fridges/freezers have *absolute* temperature measurement, instead using thermocouples, which IIRC only give a *relative* temperature measurement - so if the room temperature changes, you'd have to twiddle the knob to reset the fridge temp...
Strangely enough, I put a thermometer in the fridge at lunchtime today to check the temp... 5�C in the middle, so thats OK.

alison
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 8:39 pm Post subject:

jema wrote:

ButteryHOLsomeness wrote:

mochyn wrote:

Hmmm... someone around here must have one...

why not offer to barter with them for something...

i actually have cellar envy now...how sad is that?

Same here

Whoud not expect anyone to own a digger though, I think you pretty much have to hire.

Both my neighbours have a digger

sean
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 8:41 pm Post subject:

alison wrote:

jema wrote:

ButteryHOLsomeness wrote:

mochyn wrote:

Hmmm... someone around here must have one...

why not offer to barter with them for something...

i actually have cellar envy now...how sad is that?

Same here

Whoud not expect anyone to own a digger though, I think you pretty much have to hire.

Both my neighbours have a digger

Show off.

I know a man who's got one, does that count?

alison
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 05 9:11 pm Post subject:
Of course

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 9:02 am Post subject:
Yep: people around here have diggers, but I just have to work out who owes me a favour or is likely to do the work in return for womething in the future! And I, too, have cellar envy: ever since we moved in here I've had dreams about going downstairs and then downstairs again into an undiscovered cellar!

judith

Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22789
Location: Montgomeryshire

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 9:40 am Post subject:
We had a fantastic cellar at our last house. OH misses it so much he keeps talking about digging up the kitchen floor. Given that the top storey of our house is currently supported on matchsticks and fresh air, I am understandably (IMO) not too keen on this idea! Plenty of people around here with diggers too. I dug out our veg garden with one

Pilsbury

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 5645
Location: East london/Essex

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 10:24 pm Post subject:
I know a man who delivers hired diggers and can "borrow " one for the weekend if i need it unfortunatly he lives in cornwall and i am in London so i guess that doesnt count

Lloyd

Joined: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 2699

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 05 10:36 pm Post subject:
I'm planning a cellar where our back patio is .....Roof back and sides of thick oak, ie: 8 inches thick every direction, .....As a secure place for the house for any eventuality. It's going to take maybe two years, as my disposable income controls speed as much as my lack of knowledge, but I have the timber readily available, so must keep this in forefront of my mind....

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