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cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:00 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Stacey wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I think there's many people who aren't keen on the debates in the first place or would like some locked much sooner. So, locking after 22 odd pages seems a reasonable compromise to me.

Why? If it upsets you that much don't read it.

Don't worry I didn't read it.

However, some poor mods will have to to keep an eye on things so I'm happy with a reasonable balance.

I accept that such a balance is needed - the mods, remember, are volounteers, and they don't necessarily want to keep reading a topic.

But here, I'm with Rob (and JB, and Stacey, and Vegplot); that really was rather abrupt and, in the context of the discussion, needless.

But remember, everyone, that striking a good balance isn't easy; mods can get a bit lock-happy on something like this, expecially if they've had a few run ins with members lately. The temptation may be to shut the stable door before the horse bolts. Whether thats appropriate or not is a matter of opinion; give the mods the benefit of the doubt, and perhaps they'll be more open to not locking such threads in future.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:02 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

Fee wrote:

Or was it really getting out of hand? I'll have a read later hopefully

Nope, not a single stoat had been mentioned.

Incidentally the introduction of the stoat to the forums seems to have improved things far more than locking ever did.

Naah, I hate the stoat. Want to avoid answering a question? Say stoat, for some reason its a respectable way of ducking a fair question. Personally, I can't see how thats any more polite than just not posting an answer.

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:03 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Stacey wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I think there's many people who aren't keen on the debates in the first place or would like some locked much sooner. So, locking after 22 odd pages seems a reasonable compromise to me.

Why? If it upsets you that much don't read it.

Don't worry I didn't read it.

However, some poor mods will have to to keep an eye on things so I'm happy with a reasonable balance.

I know modding isn't easy but surely people realise that when they take the role?

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:03 pm Post subject:

Fee wrote:

Bet it was that Stacey again, wasn't it

Unfortunately not. I'll have my badge taken off me soon

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:04 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Rob R wrote:

Fee wrote:

Or was it really getting out of hand? I'll have a read later hopefully

Nope, not a single stoat had been mentioned.

Incidentally the introduction of the stoat to the forums seems to have improved things far more than locking ever did.

I htink one has to have a certain sense of humour to understand 'the stoat'. That and an ability not to take oneself too seriously.

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:05 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Stacey wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I think there's many people who aren't keen on the debates in the first place or would like some locked much sooner. So, locking after 22 odd pages seems a reasonable compromise to me.

Why? If it upsets you that much don't read it.

Don't worry I didn't read it.

However, some poor mods will have to to keep an eye on things so I'm happy with a reasonable balance.

So what are the guidelines for?

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:06 pm Post subject:

Stacey wrote:

I know modding isn't easy but surely people realise that when they take the role?

Indeed they should, but that doesn't mean that its fair to just give 'em grief over things where they've made a difficult judgement call. I think they were in error here, and I'm sure they've taken the feedback from you, me and others and they'll mull over doing it differently next time.

What do you say guys?

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:06 pm Post subject:

Stacey wrote:

I htink one has to have a certain sense of humour to understand 'the stoat'. That and an ability not to take oneself too seriously.

I understand it, I just think that the stoat is carp.

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:07 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Stacey wrote:

I know modding isn't easy but surely people realise that when they take the role?

I'm not giving anyone grief, cab.

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:07 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Stacey wrote:

I htink one has to have a certain sense of humour to understand 'the stoat'. That and an ability not to take oneself too seriously.

I understand it, I just think that the stoat is carp.

Then you don't understand it

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:18 pm Post subject:

JB wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I think there's many people who aren't keen on the debates in the first place or would like some locked much sooner. So, locking after 22 odd pages seems a reasonable compromise to me.

I think the problem is that it seems rather arbitrary. No rules were broken, we don't have anything saying we'll lock threads that are off topic (there'd be almost nothing on here

) and yet the thread is just killed.

And actually I've just been reading more about the story and have found a piece of info that no-one has yet mentioned - so there was more to be said about that subject.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:18 pm Post subject:
The stoat is a way of stopping a debate taking a particularly downward spiralling line of nit-picking & pettiness and is a useful way to express frustration that one or more people don't 'get' your point, and probably never will.

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:20 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

The stoat is a way of stopping a debate taking a particularly downward spiralling line of nit-picking & pettiness and is a useful way to express frustration that one or more people don't 'get' your point, and probably never will.

Do you think stoats are homphobic?

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:21 pm Post subject:
No, they'll bite anyone.

Barefoot Andrew
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 08 12:27 pm Post subject:
Maybe carp could be the new stoats? A.

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