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jema
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 10:35 am Post subject:

mochyn wrote:

Jema: you'll think I'm a complete idiot, but I now have images of cutting bbiscuits into pieces and joining them together. What on earth is a biscuit jointer?

A biscuit jointer is a fantastic device:

https://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=17569

You use it to cut out a small groove in two pieces of wood, you then place a glued oval biscuit in the groove, and join on the other peice of wood. this makes a very solid joint, and whilst you can do this without the biscuit jointing tool, the tool with is depth limit and various guides, means you can welly out the grooves at incredible speed.

jema

N.V.M.

Joined: 05 Feb 2005
Posts: 207
Location: British Columbia,Canada,eh!

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 3:35 pm Post subject:

woodworking! yay, my field of expertise. when it comes to biscuit jointers(also known as an intermittent spline cutter), you get what you pay for. as a journeyman cabinetmaker of 20 years, there is only one brand of machine we use... Lamello.
you have to take into account we have a dozen guys using these machines and the get dropped,beaten and abused and very few brands can stand up to shop use.

also, one can use a router to cut the grooves. if you already have a router, get yourself a 3 wing spline cutter( with a bottom bearing and 1/8" kerf) linky here

jema
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 3:43 pm Post subject:

N.V.M. wrote:

For shop use, they must stand up to a lot of abuse, but for home use, there are alot of very cheap tools out there these days of remarkable quality.

I pretty much equipt myself:

https://www.downsizer.net/Projects/Starting_Out/Creating_a_wood_working_shop/

for the cost of one or two of the expensive brands of tools.

jema

N.V.M.

Joined: 05 Feb 2005
Posts: 207
Location: British Columbia,Canada,eh!

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 5:19 pm Post subject:

yeah, i'm not the best judge for home use equipment, been using commercial grade tools for way too long. and, as time goes by, we use fewer hand tools as it is, seems the money is in production work and true benchwork skills are used less and less. and the irony is, most times when i do use real woodworking skills is when i build for friends or for myself.(non-commercial)

now, at work, i'm becoming just a cog in the wheel. here's my saw at work,where i'll spend about 2 days a week pumping out parts, four sheets at a time.

sean
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 5:25 pm Post subject:
All right, you've won with a devastating opening bid.

jema
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 6:06 pm Post subject:
I consider myself blown away jema

Treacodactyl
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Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 6:18 pm Post subject:
Looks like you'll need a larger garage now, jema.

jema
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 6:29 pm Post subject:
It is a bit depressing some of these tools. I am not one for over romanticising crafts. I love a good powertool But you see some programmes, showing say fairly classy wood furniture being made, something you think might be an interesing job. But when you see it, all the "craft" has been taken out of the process. In a series of souless production line jigs jema

Blacksmith

Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Posts: 5025
Location: Berkshire

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 6:34 pm Post subject:
With you on that one, "Norm" et al make wonderfull workpieces, not sure if I've ever seen him use a HAND tool ? Laser guided chop saws, inter continental ballistic routers, sure there is a skill to it................ Dave.

N.V.M.

Joined: 05 Feb 2005
Posts: 207
Location: British Columbia,Canada,eh!

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 7:14 pm Post subject:

very few commercial enterprises can make money with craft. the ones that do are smaller shops,almost 1 man operations. i don't think there are 3 guys in our shop who could dovetail with just a chisel, let alone with a router/with collar and a dovetail jig.

all our machines are just for making money, not for making anything i'd be bragging about.

here's something i made for our home @ Christmas time, this i would brag about. Jema may have seen it already over at TN, and this is the kind of project i just like to putter around at after work or Sunday morning. (and i think there are over 100 biscuits in the whole thing, lol)

My Fireplace

MizNVM was quite pleased with this...wink..nudge..

jema
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 05 7:40 pm Post subject:
Very nice I'll be posting piccies of my bathroom soon ( i hope) jema

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