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patmac



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 1:02 pm    Post subject: Internet Explorer Security Threat Reply with quote
    

Found this news item in todays paper. Members should be careful.
It is probably much safer to use Firefox.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1095266/Microsoft-rush-security-patch-Internet-Explorer-Chinese-fraudsters-use-flaw-hijack-computers.html

vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Further information...

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7787445.stm

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Not is the time to switch to another browser, this has been known about for over a week and is only just getting patched. Mickysoft have come up with the justification that only .02% or some such of web sites are infected, doesn't take much math to realize how many web sites a PC may visit and how many PCs there are....

Other browsers may have other vulnerabilities but they are less of a target and tend to get patched quicker.

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Patch available from 1800 tonight.

Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Firefox available right now. I'm stunned 70% of people still use IE.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
Firefox available right now. I'm stunned 70% of people still use IE.


I'm one of those.

Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

But isn't it full of security holes, slower and less flexible than Firefox?

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Much less standards compliant, security holes, lacking in all the great addons, security holes, clunkier interface, security holes....

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, but I thought it would be helpful for those who do use it.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
But isn't it full of security holes, slower and less flexible than Firefox?


Security: Only if you don't keep up with patches and swim in a sewer. Other browsers have security issues. Worst in my book is Safari. Firefox is pretty good.

Slower: Not noticed it. IE7 renders as quickly as FF and Chrome - for me.

Flexible: Depends on personal circumstances. In this respect FF has a greater range of plugins available. I use FF as well and have yet to keep a plugin that works well enough for me. I find IE7Pro meets all my needs in this respect but others will find differently.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

To counter the IE scare brigade Mozilla has just release 8 patches or FireFox, three of which are classified as critical. Whilst not as severe as IE's vulnerability these highlight that alternative browsers are also at risk.

Firefox should prompt you to update.

mark



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Firefox is just so useful ..
it is so easy an user friendly
these lovely easy to install extensions make it so flexible - just add features you want.
and when you install them it is lovely to suddenly find your browser can switch between multiple google mails account - or use google mail as a file server, or auto make tiny urls or whatever..

can't think how I held out with internet explorer for so long..

Google chrome is fast and simple - and probably the most elegent of the browsers - but doesn't have the range of extensions firefox has that makes my life so much easier - so i'm not likely to swap over.

mark

Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

And I can't reply to hotmails in Chrome, and it doesn't like Facebook. At least one of these is a problem with it, but, those aside, it's nice enough.

OP



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
Much less standards compliant, security holes, lacking in all the great addons, security holes, clunkier interface, security holes....

Standards compliance is of no relevance to the vast majority of surfers, for whom IE itself is the de facto standard. I'd love to know when these "standards" were dreamt up why they deliberately decided to make them different to the IE standard? The standards compliant box-model is a clear example of this deliberate obtuseness, where they went out of their way to come up with an alternative non-intuitive scheme, just to be different. When they have the good grace to ditch that, I will take more notice of them. Remember that Microsoft, unlike the so-called standards compliant browsers, has to continue to support backward compatibility with earlier versions still used by millions of users.

Having said that, I used FF more than IE7 - but subjectively IE7 is faster (and Chrome is even faster).

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 08 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Err, they don't. Mac users were abandoned about two or three years ago.

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