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macatsuma

Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 77
Location: elland, west yorkshire

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:12 pm Post subject: people don't like dead things with big brown eyes

i was just reading johnnyboys excellently illustrated piece on paunching a rabbit as we are off shooting at the weekend, and someone reading over my shoulder asked what website i was on as it looked interesting so i went to the home page to give them the site address but on seeing a banner ad' that said "unstunned halal meat" they came over all weird and started going on about it being "digraceful" and has just sent me a link to a bbc story about kosher and halal meat. i would point out that the person concerned was full of the story of her drinking warm snake blood wine in china when she went there, i wonder if she thought the snake was asked nicely for its blood. sheesh

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:20 pm Post subject:

That was your opportunity to do your Michael Winner impression:
"Calm down dear it's just an advert"

If her snake was done properly it's important that the heart is still beating when removed and offered to distinguished guest and it should continue beating as it slides down the recipients throat.

Having seen a chinese market and the conditions animals are kept in I'm pretty sure that the welfare of the snake was not considered.

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:27 pm Post subject:

Is that true about the snake?

I really, really don't want to get in to the whole halal/kosher debate here, seen it happen, people are terribly polarised and often unreasonable...personally I will be prepared for the debate over humane slaughter methods when every animal bred for meat is *raised* humanely (on the grounds years or months of consciousness is rather more important than a few hours at the end) and *every* person involved in the food chain is guaranteed to follow legislation properly.

I'm neither convinced nor unconvinced by the stun/don't stun side; I am however perfectly certain that people need to stop eating meat for every meal and start caring about whether the animal involved was brought up in a field or a box.

Grrr.

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:31 pm Post subject:
Yup - it apparently gives you strength and virility. Which is, of course, bllcks.

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: people don't like dead things with big brown eyes

macatsuma wrote:

i was just reading johnnyboys excellently illustrated piece on paunching a rabbit as we are off shooting at the weekend

Shooting anything in particular?

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:33 pm Post subject:
Glad you liked the article , I think your point shows that it's symptomatic of people being happy to eat meat whilst being even happier to ignore how it got to their plate, unless they come across someone who does get involved in the animals death, and they get all judgemental. Bizarre.

macatsuma

Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 77
Location: elland, west yorkshire

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:35 pm Post subject:
no i agree the kosher/halal debate is a hottie, right up there with the what religon are you and what do you think of thatcher, i was just stunned by the obvious ignorance of the origins of food and the non animal shaped lump of pink that arrives on a supermarket shelf. And she's a man united supporter two contentious issues for the price of one......... bargain!

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:39 pm Post subject:

macatsuma wrote:

And she's a man united supporter

Well she should be an expert on poorly treated dumb animals then

macatsuma

Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 77
Location: elland, west yorkshire

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: people don't like dead things with big brown eyes

Bugs wrote:

macatsuma wrote:

i was just reading johnnyboys excellently illustrated piece on paunching a rabbit as we are off shooting at the weekend

Shooting anything in particular?

just going to get my eye back in, in preparation for august and game season, so we cant take anything but rabbit, hare and pigeon, but we are taking the clay flinging machine with us so i'll probably just come back with a brace of (unmarked) clays like lat week

bagpuss

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:44 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

Glad you liked the article

, I think your point shows that it's symptomatic of people being happy to eat meat whilst being even happier to ignore how it got to their plate, unless they come across someone who does get involved in the animals death, and they get all judgemental. Bizarre.

That was one of the things that struck me about what little I saw of A real good life on ITV, one of the families teenage girls was objecting to buying pigs to rear and kill for meat as being murder but the footage the program showed nowhere did anyone challenge the fact that every piece of meat she ate someone had "murdered" or showed her deciding to become vegetarian, maybe those bits just weren't interesting TV or it never happened

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: people don't like dead things with big brown eyes

macatsuma wrote:

we are taking the clay flinging machine with us so i'll probably just come back with a brace of (unmarked) clays like lat week

Ooh, I can do that too. I'm like a one-woman Society for the Preservation of Clays on the few occasions that someone has been kindly deluded enough to put a shotgun in to my little mitts.

Let us know how you get on (and remember we don't know, so you can be astoundingly successful and we'll believe you

)

macatsuma

Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 77
Location: elland, west yorkshire

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 3:07 pm Post subject:
i once bagged my own car! i was shooting this crappy under and over remington with a really short barrel, i followed a grouse from the tree line, it dipped sharply i let it have both barrles missed completely and blew the side window out of my volvo, skinning that was no fun i'll tell you

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 3:11 pm Post subject:

macatsuma wrote:

i once bagged my own car! i was shooting this crappy under and over remington with a really short barrel, i followed a grouse from the tree line, it dipped sharply i let it have both barrles missed completely and blew the side window out of my volvo, skinning that was no fun i'll tell you

Comedy! I would have paid to see that!

Mad Dad

Joined: 12 May 2005
Posts: 407
Location: Nowhere near where I want to be

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 7:02 pm Post subject:

macatsuma wrote:

Thank you for the best laugh of the day

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 15051
Location: East Midlands

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 05 8:51 pm Post subject:

Definitely today's laugh (alhtough I'd laugh hysterically at most things today!) I once knew a chippy who sawed off the piece of wood his ladder was leaning on, a fell into his car, braking the lights (he was in one piece though!)

At risk of opening a cna of worms, whats the problem with halal/kosher? I thought that part of it was that the animal shouldn't be stressed? Or have I got the worng oend of the stick?

I don't know about big brown eyes. I think piggies with personality would be my biggest challenge, and their not generally known for their cute appeal.

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