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tahir

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 05 4:32 pm Post subject:
Sorry forgot about this, they produce I reckon 60% of the light of the equivalent halogens, there are warm whites available but the ones I got were a bluish white, very cold.

jema
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 05 4:57 pm Post subject:
In for a penny.... 10 on order. I think I will probably need to install more lights to make up for the low output.

tahir

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 05 5:03 pm Post subject:
Get 'em in first, you never know you might find they're OK

jema
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 05 5:09 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Get 'em in first, you never know you might find they're OK

You never know, and there is no great place/way for extra lights in the kitchen, so it will take a bit of thought anyway.,

jema
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 05 12:14 pm Post subject:

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Dear Martin
Thank you for your recent internet order. Unfortunately we are currently out of stock of this item and will no longer stock it. However, we will be stockng an alternative bulb which will appear on our webite next week.
I have therefore cancelled your order and wait to hear from you following the release of our new stock.
Regards
Hilary Ritchie
led-lightbulbs sales

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 05 12:16 pm Post subject:
I'd say that's good news, I'd assume that the new version should improve on the old.

jema
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:30 pm Post subject:
Well I got them, and even with 7 bulbs in the kitchen, they don't really cut it

tahir

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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:31 pm Post subject:
Is that the new version?

jema
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:35 pm Post subject:
Yes, and I figure they need at least twice the output to get to a sensible level. I will probably swap out a couple for "real" bulbs.

tawny owl

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 05 8:40 am Post subject:

On the subject of bulbs generally, does anyone know whether halogens are as/more green than energy-saving ones? I've tried the energy-saving ones (several types) and I find they all give a pathetic and rather eye-straining light, and also seem to blow a lot faster than normal bulbs. Most of our fittings are halogen anyway, and I'm considering changing some of the others. I'm assuming halogens aren't too bad, considering they are generally only 25 or 50 watt, but I'd be interested to know for sure.

jema
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 05 8:56 am Post subject:

tawny owl wrote:

240v Halogens are horrible. expensive and blow all the time.

Northern_Lad

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:02 am Post subject:

jema wrote:

240v Halogens are horrible. expensive and blow all the time.

Odd, I've had 5 in my kitchen for nearly 2 years now without a problem. I'd prefer to use 12V, but I've got them on a dimmer switch so I don't blind myself on dark mornings.

jema
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:14 am Post subject:

Northern_Lad wrote:

jema wrote:

240v Halogens are horrible. expensive and blow all the time.

Odd, I've had 5 in my kitchen for nearly 2 years now without a problem. I'd prefer to use 12V, but I've got them on a dimmer switch so I don't blind myself on dark mornings.

Well I have tried various brands and none of them live up to hours of life promised, and my brother says the same thing. It might be something to do with electric supply quality, but whatever it is I got sick of buying them.

Lloyd

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:16 am Post subject:
I have used 50w 12v Osram halogen spots in office and kitchen for a couple of years, but as Jema says, they keep blowing, and are expensive to replace. Better, however, than the long life ones, that keep you in semi darkness.

tawny owl

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 05 6:12 pm Post subject:

Northern_Lad wrote:

Odd, I've had 5 in my kitchen for nearly 2 years now without a problem. I'd prefer to use 12V, but I've got them on a dimmer switch so I don't blind myself on dark mornings.

Me too - they do blow now and again, but I certainly wouldn't say more often than normal bulbs. Mine's on dimmer as well - maybe it's the sudden surge of leccy that blows them?

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