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Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 4:37 pm Post subject: Hedging

We need to order around 600 hedging plants. They have to become stockproof and do well in Welsh coastal weather. Jack has usually planted blackthorn, hawthorn, some dog rose which look beautiful, some assorted plum, a few hazel to try as I cannot think of any on the farm.

Elder doesn't do well. He doesn't want beech and says it isn't stock proof.

What else would you suggest that might be good for birds and perhaps provide fruit for us?

Green Rosie

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 10498
Location: Calvados, France

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 5:06 pm Post subject:
Spindle, guelder rose, dogwood, crab-apple. Not sure how tolerant thee are of your conditions though

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 5:11 pm Post subject:
They sound good although I don't think we will be adding crabapples. Feeling a bit swamped with apples at the moment. We are buying them from a local grower who has grown trees from seeds taken from here. He will be know if they will do well and there is no harm in trying a few and seeing how well they do. We will be planting more next year.

Green Rosie

Joined: 13 May 2007
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Location: Calvados, France

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 5:13 pm Post subject:
But the birds love crab apples

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 5:24 pm Post subject:
Do you think spindle is poisonous? Some euonymous is. It has to be safe for lambs.

Green Rosie

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 10498
Location: Calvados, France

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 5:35 pm Post subject:
The berries are certainly poisonous to us, although not to birds. I don't know about the leaves or berries and lambs.

Gervase

Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 8655

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 5:45 pm Post subject:
Round by 'ere it's gorse, gorse and sometimes a bit of gorse.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 7:10 pm Post subject:
Yeah and we are not buying any (Jack says more).

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45723
Location: Essex

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 8:07 pm Post subject:
cherry plums, sea buckthorn, hazel

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 9:12 pm Post subject:
sea buckthorn - viscious, pretty and edible

jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 35128
Location: Devon

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 9:14 pm Post subject:

Lorrainelovesplants wrote:

sea buckthorn - viscious, pretty and edible

Doesn't it try to take over the world though? Does it have to be indigenous Cathryn? How about Darwin's barberry?

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Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 9:16 pm Post subject:
yeah - but its for hedging - the thicker the better....

jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 35128
Location: Devon

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 9:24 pm Post subject:
Or plain old buckthorn - unrelated to sea buckthorn. https://www.hedging.co.uk/acatalog/product_10161.html "tolerant of chalky soils" suggests it may not do for you, though we have a couple of good specimens here.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 15051
Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 9:35 pm Post subject:
Have a look at bucks nurseries - I know your not looking to buy, but they have oodles of hedging mixtures for ideas.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 10 9:51 pm Post subject:
I`d stick with what you have, Both Hawthorn and Blackthorn make good stock proof hedge`s,with some Hazle,and Dogrose,as a mixture I`ve the thorns in my arms to prove it.

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