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Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:11 pm Post subject:

Gervase wrote:

But there are other areas that are, perforce, private. The staff room, publishing, directors', meat traders' etc sections aren't open to all. The naughty corner is - all you have to do is join!
If you see that as a problem, the problem is with you, not the naughty corner. It's there waiting for you with open arms and a lascivious leer...

Its a problem but the problem is not of my (or other people who don't feel the need to swear) making

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:11 pm Post subject:
Nobody's actually suffering though, are they? It's just a less family-friendly section for shooting the breeze and ranting a bit that anyone over the age of sixteen can join up to. You can't have your bun AND your penny, as Bebo says.

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:12 pm Post subject:
I don't think my idea is really workable either. I'm questioning the very existence of the naughty corner.

Becki

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 6293
Location: Devon

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:13 pm Post subject:
I havn't joined and I'm certainly not suffering. I don't care what's going on 'behind closed doors' I can't see why your getting so worked up bodger. Join and then unjoin. Then you'll know.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:14 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

Nobody's *actually suffering* though, are they? It's just a less family-friendly section for shooting the breeze and ranting a bit that anyone over the age of sixteen can join up to. You can't have your bun AND your penny, as Bebo says.

The irony is that this discussion makes it sound like a less adult atmosphere than the main forum, but its reserved for adults

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:15 pm Post subject:
Yup, what Becki said. It's only the internet. Have a nice cup of tea and then go and do something in the fresh air.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:17 pm Post subject:

Bodger wrote:

I don't think my idea is really workable either. I'm questioning the very existence of the naughty corner.

So did I when it started. It appeared to me quite a stunning admission that people can't be trusted to behave decently in public so they have to be hidden away. But it has to be said that thus far the general attitude on the main forum has been a little better than it was previously, else I certainly wouldn't be contributing now. Whether thats because naughty corner has taken some heat out of things or whether its because some of the problems this place had have otherwise resolved themselves, it is currently a friendlier place than it was.

I get why you're questioning a necessity for naughty corner. I think that the evidence on the ground does not support a claim that it is a problem though.

Bebo

Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 12590
Location: East Sussex

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:17 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Chez wrote:

The irony is that this discussion makes it sound like a less adult atmosphere than the main forum, but its reserved for adults

It is certainly less 'grown up'. If you want to be peurile you can (and some of us are I'm afraid).

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:17 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Chez wrote:

The irony is that this discussion makes it sound like a less adult atmosphere than the main forum, but its reserved for adults

Well, yes, that was my impression of it

. I think it serves a purpose and gives a safe space for people to sound off without worrying about offending anyone. And the number of threads that have turned nasty on the main forum have, IMO, dropped since it's inception, which can only be good.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:19 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

Well, yes, that was my impression of it

There is still rather a 'treading on eggshells' feel on the main forum though, at least according to the PM's I'm getting, and from my own reading. Time will tell whether the naughty corner has worked.

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:22 pm Post subject:

I think that the 'feel' of a place doesn't change overnight, either for the worse or the better. Time does indeed tell. And with ds, it's seasonal, too - there's a marked increase in grumpyness before the weather gets better, for example, when people have been cooped up indoors too long.

Constantly criticising the framework instead of getting stuck in to what's there and contributing positively to the site doesn't help matters, IMO.

paul1963

Joined: 15 Nov 2010
Posts: 2161
Location: No longer active on the forum

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:22 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

cab wrote:

Chez wrote:

The irony is that this discussion makes it sound like a less adult atmosphere than the main forum, but its reserved for adults

Well, yes, that was my impression of it

I agree Chez (I joined and don't particulalry use it as a swearing forum - it's not my natural behaviour to swear in writing - but I do find it quite fun.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:29 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

Constantly criticising the framework instead of getting stuck in to what's there and contributing positively to the site doesn't help matters, IMO.

Maybe, but a balance has to be struck there; I don't see Bodgers (or anyones) posts to this thread as being damaging to this site, and I do think that more often than not we see suggestions for change being treated with outright suspicion (and aggression) rather than just being discussed.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:31 pm Post subject:

Becki wrote:

I havn't joined and I'm certainly not suffering. I don't care what's going on 'behind closed doors' I can't see why your getting so worked up bodger.
Join and then unjoin. Then you'll know.

More like sound proof doors. They're not locked but have a warning sign on them. Not secret, no enclave, no weird hand shakes.

One can't expect a community to run well without some sort of release for those with minor imperfections in their character who are willing to recognise that fact.

The Naughty Corder is a prime example of avoiding the need for rules, instead we have a format for controlled tolerance.

Edit: Not directed at Becki BTW or anyone in particular..

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:45 pm Post subject:

Chez wrote:

cab wrote:

Chez wrote:

The irony is that this discussion makes it sound like a less adult atmosphere than the main forum, but its reserved for adults

Well, yes, that was my impression of it

it is alos a place where those of us with offspring as forum members can discuss stuff we don't want to share with them.

if you go look, you can find the result of my son discovering one of the threads where i had moaned about his dad's idiocy. there are some people here whose opinion i give a great deal of value when dealing with some of the issues surrounding my family.

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