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Equine Obesity: A Criminal Offense

 
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T.G



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 11 3:22 pm    Post subject: Equine Obesity: A Criminal Offense Reply with quote
    

https://hoofcare.blogspot.com/2009/10/equine-obesity-criminal-offense-for-two.html

Sally Too



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 11 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tis a strange world we live in .... criminal to let a pony get obese but just fine to allow our children to get to the same state!

Of course I realise that laminitis also comes into play with ponies... but .... well it still seems a bit inconsistent.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 11 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sally too wrote:
Tis a strange world we live in .... criminal to let a pony get obese but just fine to allow our children to get to the same state!

Also, it seems from various reports, that it is OK to starve a horse.

Though there are more people obese in the world than there are starving, this is a strange way to recognise that.

T.G



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 11 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My own personal view is based on the fact that as a horses value is mostly derived from its usefulness (yes, I concede, there are several exceptions) this is linked to its legs/feet.

A horse is only as good as its legs/feet (as I recall � this is the reason only farriers are legally allowed to shoe a horse). So, it would follow that a horse carrying excess weight is much more directly affected than lets say a dog, a overweight horse is expected to work regardless, be it ridden or driven, thus it is similar to asking an overweight bloke to carry another bloke (often on the top side of slim) and run around with them on their back, jumping and walking on hot or cold days straight out of the paddock on many occasions.

It wouldn�t take a genius to realise it�s a recipe for injury or problems. So it would follow a slightly underweight horse is not adversely affected in this particular manner. Therefore, the detriment is stronger to an overweight horse than an underweight � obviously substantially underweight isn�t acceptable.

I do have some BVA health programme year planners which state on the reverse:

Quote:
6) SUPPLEMENTARY FEEDING � Most horses, ponies and donkeys are overfed. Obesity is more harmful than being slightly lean. A �Weigh band� is the scientific way of assessing and meeting your animal�s requirements.


So it is a common acceptance that a slightly lean horse is better than an overweight horse.

As for children, it never ceases to amaze me that there is such tangible hatred foisted towards anyone guilty of harming an animal (I don�t advocate animal harm) but there is a lessening of this public directed hatred when it is a child or baby. Many still left in bins or under bushes shortly after birth, regular reports in the media of child deaths at the hands of their supposed parent�s/protectors� that\drift off into obscurity or are only reported briefly or locally, yet an animal and there are active open FB pages twitter feeds, publicity calling for a lynching almost.

I don't quite understand it.. maybe it's easier to acknowledge that someone has done such a terrible thing to an animal but as humans wecan't comprehend it being done to a child so we don't/can't bring ourselves to acknowledge it.

LynneA



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 11 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Doesn't help that show horses and ponies (esp M&M in hand) are expected to carry "condition".

I may not get to that many shows, but I've seen in hand ponies chunkier than that before shot

john of wessex



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 11 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Of course it's not just obesity thats an issue, there is also the lameness - which seems to be more likley to be the reason for prosecution as it's much simpler to prove and demonstrates neglect.

Kenworth



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 11 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

IMHO if you own an equine, you should be able to pick up their feet. At least keep them picked out. Be responsible enough to call the farrier if not able to use the rasp and nippers.

I miss my ponies

milkmaid



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 11 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the thing i don't get is the inconsistencies
look at what this got
https://www.horsemart.co.uk/news/full_recovery_for_rescued_stallion/744?accfrl=1

there was also a case last week with 15 shire horses on 2 acres ,kept out and a horse that had fallen into a stream she was saved by the loose barbed wire that was tangled around her leg ,one of the 15 one foal dead and they were monitoring the situation ,ok it was a hang high posts on facebook about the situation , but apparently they were giving advise anybody with any sense knows 15 shire horses kept on 2 acres ,living out shouldn't really be in charge of anything breathing ,the pics from the vet treating the horse that was injured ,shows it was really under weight

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