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john of wessex



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 13 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Funnily enough on another site I came across a posting from someone who was seconded to work on Universal Credit.

I wont quote it to protect his identity, but he basically says that theres no way on gods earth it will be ready in October

Rob R



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Location: York
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 13 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, I don't think they'd have given themselves until 2017 if they thought it could be ready that quickly.

john of wessex



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 13 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I dont think it will be complete evem by 2017

gray_b



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Location: Leafy Shires of the Midlands
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 13 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have only just caught up with this hot topic.

But presumably we (self employed) will have to run 2 separate accounts books, one for HMRC and one for UC.

Typically van mileage for UC will only be a flat rate, but with HMRC its down as on receipts.

With my business which is very much linked to the weather, I can earn virtually nothing from November to March, but then make hay whilst the sun shines for the rest of the year. So they will say its not a viable business over the winter months ??

This is going to be a nightmare

Rob R



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 13 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gray_b wrote:
With my business which is very much linked to the weather, I can earn virtually nothing from November to March, but then make hay whilst the sun shines for the rest of the year. So they will say its not a viable business over the winter months ??


Just 'invest' the hay during the summer months into something that can be sold, preferably at a profit, during the winter months (hay is a good one, actually).

john of wessex



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 13 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

E-mail to my MP, David Heath - Secretary of State for Agriculture

Dear Mr Heath,


I have been looking at this summary of Universal Credit and what it means for the self employed


https://www.permaculturehouseintotnes.co.uk/1/post/2013/03/universal-credit-and-the-self-employed.html


I am advised by those who have worked on this aspect of Universal Credit that it is accurate.


As Secretary of State for Agriculture, I would be interested to know what you opinions are on the effect that it is likley to have on seasonal businesses such as farming, tourism and related areas.


There is a clear intention to take benefits away from those who are not in gainful self employment. I note however that there are a large number of profitable businesses eg Retail (Top Shop, Amazon, Starbucks, Tesco's) who seem to make reasonable profits, avoid Tax but not pay their staff a living wage. If you are to withdraw benefits from self employed workers who do not make a reasonable income, should you not, by the same token be making profitable businesses pay their workers at a level that means they do not require state support.


As a taxpayer, I resent having my taxes used to support employees whose employers do not pay a living wage.


Please can you advise me if you propose to take any action on this.


Yours Sincerley

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