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Allen And Linda

Joined: 13 Nov 2010
Posts: 32
Location: North Of Bristol

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 10:02 am Post subject: Help with shroom ident please
Hi All, Found these near Bristol yesterday, growing in a big ring. Tried to identify, but can't be 100% sure what we have got. Any help from you experts would be gratefully received. Thanks Cheers, Lin

Falstaff

Joined: 27 May 2009
Posts: 1014

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 11:19 am Post subject:
Can't really see much from teh photies - but this time of year ? ST George's Mushroom seems a pretty good bet !

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46390
Location: yes

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 11:25 am Post subject:
i had though st g as a possible but the edges seem a bit less indented than most st g . perhaps with the specimens to hand and a look at roger's and phillip's id guides will confirm what they are . a spore print might give a definite id. dont put the butter in the pan yet

Falstaff

Joined: 27 May 2009
Posts: 1014

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 11:57 am Post subject:

dpack wrote:

i had though st g as a possible but the edges seem a bit less indented than most st g .

perhaps with the specimens to hand and a look at roger's and phillip's id guides will confirm what they are .

a spore print might give a definite id.

dont put the butter in the pan yet

Which translates into "It might not be ...."

DO share your own suggestions then ?

Duane Dibbley

Joined: 12 Nov 2009
Posts: 95
Location: Between Newbury and Andover

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 12:01 pm Post subject:
I would point towards St George....do they smell 'mealy' ?

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46390
Location: yes

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 12:48 pm Post subject:

it might not be due to
location i normally find them in open grassland,

they are not as indented around the edges as i am used to ,

clumps yes but i dont remember finding a ring as such,

i cant smell them

the photos are a bit vague .

as i suggested two very good online field guides and a spore print i recon i am being sensible .i would rather miss one meal than always be "late"for dinner.

based on over 40 yrs picking and expert tuition from old polish ladies

Tavascarow

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 4:09 pm Post subject:

Falstaff wrote:

dpack wrote:

Which translates into "It might not be ...."

DO share your own suggestions then ?

Dpack is right. It's always wise to err on the side of caution with regards to foraging, particularly fungi.
What an individual does is an individuals business, but giving advice could possibly make you (& this forum) culpable if wrong.

Allen And Linda

Joined: 13 Nov 2010
Posts: 32
Location: North Of Bristol

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 4:23 pm Post subject:
Hi, Thanks or all the advice. I'm sure they are St Georges because they were growing in a ring, at the side of a path and at this time of the year. Also checking with John Wright he says that the only thing they might be confused with is the Deadly FibreCap which have dark gills. Thanks for replies and help so far, and please let me know what you think. Regards, Linda

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46390
Location: yes

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 4:25 pm Post subject:
umbellifer roulette is another good game especially if played with wet feet.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 4:39 pm Post subject:

colour can be a confusing criterium depending on moisture content ,spore development etc etc .

even with the slightly vague photos im fairly sure they are not fibre caps ,st g seems likely but the location is atypical of my usual collecting spots .

do they smell of damp flour ? mr dibbley has a pretty good id test for st g with that

the cap looks a bit thin and a bit too regular imho

st g look like this

there are a few others among the images but most are st g

your ones might be st g but i will not say they are nor can i suggest what else they might be

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46390
Location: yes

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 4:47 pm Post subject:
st g these look like the ones i think of as among the best eating shrooms

Falstaff

Joined: 27 May 2009
Posts: 1014

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 6:05 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

it might not be due to
location i normally find them in open grassland,

they are not as indented around the edges as i am used to ,

clumps yes but i dont remember finding a ring as such,

............based on over 40 yrs picking and expert tuition from old polish ladies

Here are some St Georges :

And here is the "Clump in Grassland" they came from

One of my most reliable spots, althgough it hasn't produced as yet this year !

Falstaff

Joined: 27 May 2009
Posts: 1014

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 6:13 pm Post subject:

Allen And Linda wrote:

Hi, Thanks or all the advice.

I'm sure they are St Georges because they were growing in a ring, at the side of a path and at this time of the year. Also checking with John Wright he says that the only thing they might be confused with is the Deadly FibreCap which have dark gills.

Thanks for replies and help so far, and please let me know what you think.

Regards,

Linda

Glad to have that cleared up Linda. There is a huge amount of Paranoia in this country about mushrooms and the ST George is one of teh most welcome, as it comes so early and there is very little room for mistakes. The mealy smell as Duane points out is a bit of a confirmation as well.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46390
Location: yes

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 6:17 pm Post subject:

the shrooms on your chopping board are st g .the ones above im not sure about

look at the stem shape and thickness ,cap edge and rim profile of your ones and compare that to the bristol shrooms

round here open grassland is the place to look for em .

a couple of years ago there were an industrial amount in field 4 along a raised ditch bank in open grazed grass at rob's ,in hudds they grow on an open south facing slope in very rough grass .tis odd to see them under trees.

Falstaff

Joined: 27 May 2009
Posts: 1014

Posted: Mon May 18, 15 6:33 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

the shrooms on your chopping board are st g .the ones above im not sure about

look at the stem shape and thickness ,cap edge and rim profile of your ones and compare that to the bristol shrooms

.

AS I said there's a lot of paranoia in this country about mushrooms - What else do you suggest they could be ?

[We'll wait whilst you "Phone a Polish friend..."

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