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Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 16 7:36 am Post subject: Big shed sale
pipe bender ï¿½50. 2 arc welders - old but work perfectly - please ask me for details - one is ï¿½30 (blue one) the other ï¿½40. With all leads & electrode holders. And an Axminster swivel head metal cutting bandsaw ï¿½160. Hardly used since new.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 6:33 am Post subject:
Would either welder come with a half hour idiots guide on how to stick two bits of metal together? I've twenty jobs that need a quick gluing but I wouldn't know where to start.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46246
Location: yes

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 9:22 am Post subject:

any job in mild steel that is between 3 and 20 mm depth of weld is pretty easy with a stick welder

half an hour will provide the basics and a couple of hours practice on scrap when you get it home will provide the dexterity.

specialist stuff like cast iron and pressure vessels is a whole world of learning but the usual blacksmithing and coachwork stuff is well within the scope of the average diy skills.

mask and gloves are essential as uv burns sting apart from those all the extras you need are a couple of files, an angle grinder and a welders pick to bash off slag.

as to dexterity if you can write your name in icing you can stick weld.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 9:56 am Post subject:
It is not too hard to weld securely, but it is fairly hard to weld neatly.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 10:20 am Post subject:
It's the idiots guide I was after. What to set any dials to. What to clamp to what. What cable goes where. Not about to start repairing the church bells or the local submarine. I just have some gates, implements and such that want gluing.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 11:45 am Post subject:

3 cables with the welder,one is electrode holder,one is mains electric plug and the other is the earth cable,attach earth to the piece your welding,make sure it has a good earth,clean with grinder first.

Regarding dials,that was the hardest part I found when first tried to weld,depending on what your welding,thickness of metal,thin metal with welder turned to high will burn through,thick metal with welder not turned up enough gives a weak weld.

Practice on scrap you`ll soon get the hang of it.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 12:49 pm Post subject:
That's the plan, once I've had the first five minutes under guidance. I can't damage the stuff I want to weld much. It's pretty shagged anyway.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 1:17 pm Post subject:
Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 16 1:43 pm Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.

Yes. My eyes are already fragile and I am aware of their preciousness. That would be money well spent I think.

onemanband

Joined: 26 Dec 2010
Posts: 1473
Location: NCA90

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 16 11:49 am Post subject:
You'll also need a safe electric supply. If one kettle gave you grief, imagine what several kettles could do.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 16 12:14 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.

Yes. My eyes are already fragile and I am aware of their preciousness. That would be money well spent I think.

I don't know if the magic ones actually protect you any better, but they do make it a damn site easier to see.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 16 12:27 pm Post subject:

onemanband wrote:

You'll also need a safe electric supply.
If one kettle gave you grief, imagine what several kettles could do.

Hush. The kettle got corroded and shorted. The rcd tripped doing its job. New kettle, no problems.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 16 12:28 pm Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

Nick wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

Get yourself a magic visor: the sort that go dark by themselves. They make it all so much easier.

Yes. My eyes are already fragile and I am aware of their preciousness. That would be money well spent I think.

I don't know if the magic ones actually protect you any better, but they do make it a damn site easier to see.

I'm thinking they make it much easier to see during the bright and dark phases and less likely to forget to put it on.

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 16 4:07 pm Post subject:
sorry guys for not picking up this...We lost the sale on our house and its been stressy. Welders are still available - one hours free tuition with any welder. Any questions? The metal cutting bandsaw is sold.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 16 4:19 pm Post subject:
Pipe bender?

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