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jema
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 17 9:01 am Post subject:

A question for me has always been why does clean HAVE to be cheaper?

What is cheaper anyway?

Can the cost of Nuclear clean up or its risks really be quantified?
What is the real cost of pollution?

https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/showtext.php?t=ptb0810

Suggests that the cost of electricity has stayed pretty stable for decades, but has been 20% more expensive at times than current figures.

Whilst again pointing out my skepticism on such calculations, it does not suggest to me that if clean energy was 20% more expensive that it would be a terrible thing.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 17 12:32 pm Post subject:
Careful, that's the kind of thinking leads to "Why would it be so bad to pay a couple extra dollars per American so that everyone had basic healthcare" and "Why would it be so bad for American high school students to feel like they could go to a college without mortgaging their future?" (I realize these arguments are more prevalent/pertinent in America....)

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 17 8:37 am Post subject:

Not completely Slim. The healthcare issue is backwards if you like; we currently have free healthcare (though not dentistry or glasses), and rarely now podiatry. The government, by creeping privatisation, seems keen to make us pay. As far as further education, after 18, we now have to pay for it here, although it used to be free.

Food and energy don't have to always be cheaper Jema, but you have to calculate the result if they are more expensive. For instance, you can cook cheap cuts of meat if you have cheaper power, but if you have to count how long you can afford to use the cooker, you might have to do without the meat as well.

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