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Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 18 4:38 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

as far as i can gather different techniques are suitable at different times of year...

So what type of tecnique/plants should we be grafting now?
Has anyone here tried grafting pear onto hawthorn? I'm told it can be done...

What else can graft onto what? I know apples to apples and plums to plums, but is there something a bit odd like peach onto cherry? I recall at least one other combination that surprised me.

dpack

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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 18 6:09 pm Post subject:
cucumber onto pumpkin. not very odd, increases crop and reduces salt intolerance so extra feeding helps rather than hinders. adding a second pumpkin plant to supplement the first for super giant specimen growing. sneaky but effective. i will get back to you re fruit trees when i have done more reading.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 18 11:06 pm Post subject:
UK parafilm: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Heathrow-Scientific-HD234526A-Moisture-Transparent/dp/B0061OXR6S/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1528067026&sr=8-6&keywords=parafilm I'm sure it's not all on all, but I think many stone fruit can be squished together: https://www.cnet.com/news/beautiful-tree-grows-over-40-kinds-of-fruit/

dpack

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 18 8:48 am Post subject:
thanks, i dont know why i did not see that on amazon

Slim

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 18 9:51 am Post subject:
It's a bit spendy still.... probably cheaper to buy through someone who already gets a discount for their lab supplies For those who've never used parafilm before, remember that it stretches it to many times it's size, so "a dab'll do ya".

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 18 10:29 am Post subject:
first graft taken and is now putting out leaves the two that were a fortnight later might still be settling and uniting ( they might not )

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 18 6:14 pm Post subject:
cancel that , the first graft was dead and the rootstock was putting out leaves from beneath the deceased

Slim

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 18 6:29 pm Post subject:
d'oh!

dpack

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 18 6:43 pm Post subject:
on the bright side it is a fresh green shoot for a rooting experiment

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 18 6:58 am Post subject:
That's a pity. Have another go at the right time of year.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 18 7:10 pm Post subject:

a 4 yr old mm111 rootstock in a pot will become a mother plant for greenwood shoots if fairly savagely pruned and then nursed and pampered

getting 1 0f 10 from seaweed based rooting powder using semi hardwood cuttings in late spring. educational.

i have 3 small batches of various types of cuttings in 200mg/l I3BA and cut flower feed mix.
in 24 hrs they will get potted on into sterile cutting compost
they are in a propagator.

it is a mid range concentration for slowish soak and the only variable is the type of stick in the splosh. cunning

biopunk horticulture is fun.

as the mothers can be persuaded to produce nice green shoots i recon i could go micro culture if needs be.
or root em from being earthed up if there is a suitable location .

a free supply of " new " rootstocks seems like a good idea if adventures in grafting "unknown" old apples might happen .

the skill is transferable if it doesn’t

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 18 5:05 pm Post subject:
So what sort of grafting technique is best for this time of year? I have cherries, plums, apples and pears to play with...

dpack

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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 18 11:17 am Post subject:
roostock preparation ready for dormant period styles. the cuttings are all planted, the youngest shoots look a bit chemically challenged but the older and semi hardwood ones look quite perky so far.

dpack

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 19 6:40 pm Post subject:

those did not go too well

the summer rootstock twigs casually pushed into damp soil still seem alive

today i collected , the little russet, the horizontal one i did the serious prune on, a rather nice high acid cooker that keeps, a cooker then eater and a rather spiffing pear that is ripe for a day.

all unidentified although we have tried in the right places

i have plenty of suitable rootstock, tools ,film etc.

wonder what might happen

an unknown russet graft from before has definitely taken and needs a bit of tlc in the soil department

the twigs to provide the scions are now in a bag outside to stay quiet until tomorrow which is likely to be frankentree city and needs decent light.

i dont know what your microclimates are but my pear root stock has just started to show green from the buds and all of the scion material looks ready to go.

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 19 8:17 am Post subject:
Our apples aren't showing too much sign at the moment, and we don't have pears, but they are behind a hedge to the immediate south of them, so probably not long.

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