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jp



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 17 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nowt, nader, zilch, nuttin' - ceps seem to be awol where I am. Hoping that they are just running late, but fear the wet summer has scuppered them. Time will tell...

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are now sliced and dried, a couple of days reaching full flavour in a no longer on dehydrator and they will be ready for the jar
interested why you leave the dried ceps in the dehydrator before storing dpack - how does it improve the flavour?

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 17 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

more oxidation to enhance the umami flavour

dry, rest, quick dry again and then store seems to work well.

this reminded me to empty dehydrator and check both trees asap

jp



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 17 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Interesting - I must try that. Generally I just dry them (when there's any to find - grrrrr) in the dehydrator and then straight into the storage jar. I guess I'm concerned lest they absorb moisture after drying & then spoil. I even put some rice in the storage containers to absorb any residual moisture.
By the way, which part of the world are you in dpack (I won't be offended if you don't want to say) - I'm hoping your ceps are running ahead of my patches because you are far away! Eternal optimist, me

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 17 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

york uk so i would expect your ones to have shown first but rainfall etc etc and the local microclimate of a given spot is probably more of a factor than latitude

here is dry compared to the uk average but that might be a plus for ceps as i have never found them in really damp locations like the west coast or even the west slopes/tops pennines

the super experienced polish lady that first taught me a bit about edible shrooms reckoned that whenever autumn starts is the start of the ceps season, so i spose once the birch leaves begin to lose the green and go yellow is a good marker.

that would fit with slim's not too warm and fairly damp time scale at least in the uk.

my next marker is soil temp under 10 degrees c for the field blewits followed by first frosts for the best pleurotus spp. and hard frosts for the velvet shanks:wink:

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 17 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Don't think it has been a good year for ceps with us either jp and we are in the south. Has been rather damp generally for about the last month. Not always raining, but generally damp.

jp



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 17 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Still hoping that October might redeem the Cep harvest, but I guess that will be weather dependent here in the south.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 17 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

got a couple of big uns today and about ten button ones, no point in leaving the buttons as im busy for a few days and chances are they would be too old to be much use.

i already have a few old uns mixed with soil for inoculating new sites

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 17 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hope you have left enough on the original site to get more next year Dpack. Don't know much about ceps life cycle, but may need some spores from this years crop to keep going.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 17 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i always leave some and some just leave themselves by getting too mushy to eat

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 17 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

True. For some reason slugs and snails seem to like fungi too. I sometimes go back to get a full ID and find something has eaten it, even the poisonous ones.

jp



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 17 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It seems to be a funny old season - I can't figure out if it's running early, or late, or just not really happening. I found a load of lovely chanterelles yesterday which is much later than I would normally expect to see them. I also found plenty of hedgehog shrooms which are about on time around here. But still no ceps - I'm beginning to wonder if they turned up back in July when we had a load of cool damp weather......

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 17 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

my outdoor tomatoes are only just starting to ripen but the blackberries were a month or more early so you might be right about a rather odd year for seasons.

quite a few of the ornamental things in homestead park seem to out of season as well.

jp



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 17 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Interesting - straws in the wind pointing to an odd season. I'm going to continue to keep an eye on my shroom spots over the next few weeks to see if anything changes.

buzzy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 17 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

As for the oddness of the season, I expect to see the occasional fruit bearer throwing the odd flower out of season - apples seem to do it more than most, as I recall. But this year a lot of brambles have a few flowers on them, and today, at the edge of a big clump of dry Hemlock (Conium maculatum) stems was one plant with beautiful green vegetation and splendid white flowers.

Henry

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 17 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

meadow sweet is in full flower for the second time and there seems to be a good crop of red clover flowers for mid october in york

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