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frewen

Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 1:44 pm Post subject: sneaky hedge planting
I was wondering, is it very wrong to try and encourage a few sparse areas in a local hedge to fill in with something native?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 1:58 pm Post subject:
Go for it

frewen

Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 2:16 pm Post subject:
Do you have any good suggestions?

Jam Lady

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Location: New Jersey, USA

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 3:32 pm Post subject:
An interesting technique I read in an old book - put up some posts and wires. Birds will perch, poop, and the seeds will (eventually, grow into a hedge. Native or not, depends on what they are eating / pooping.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 3:35 pm Post subject:
Hazel is my favourite, but holly seems to be as tough as old boots. I suppose looking at what’s growing well in the vicinity would be a good plan, as that’s what’s likely to do well.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:17 pm Post subject:
service tree is rather nice as are other wild style fruits if you have bullace stones ,service hips or whatever in a pocket a quick poke with a stick can plant a few gaps at this time of year quite a few things will take from sticking a greenwood cutting in the mud

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:26 pm Post subject:
I had to google service tree, as I was pretty certain that service berry (Amelanchier) is a new world species, but now I'm wondering if you use it all over there? Would seem to be a good choice, though maybe not for this thread suggesting native species....

frewen

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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 5:35 pm Post subject:
Service tree - likes clay - big tick

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:20 pm Post subject:
afaik it has been here since the 17th C so it could be considered more native than some. i wonder what was native when we had rhinos in london? baobab seems plausible but it isn't really suitable for a hedge gap in geo/ biological time scales the current UK flora are all recent introductions( or reintroductions ) cos a mile or so of ice isn’t ideal for growing things under or on .

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:42 pm Post subject:
A similar talking point exists for black locust here. Is it an invasive if we know it was here before the last ice age?

Nicky cigreen

Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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Location: Devon, uk

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:45 pm Post subject:
You can take cuttings of local native trees and just poke them in the mud - alder and willow will take like this.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:46 pm Post subject:
Also, just for clarity for anyone wondering, what you call service tree is Sorbus, which we call mountain ash (at least the species that grows in the mountains near me) What we call service berry is Amerlanchier, AKA saskatoon

happytechie

Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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Location: Surrey (at the mo.)

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 7:47 pm Post subject:
Blackthorn, willow and hazel will all root from green sticks pushed in the ground. Holly will too but it's a bit more fussy. All of these would do a great job filling out a hedge. If you have plenty of green sticks let me know. I'll have a few hundred metres of hedge to plant this year!

frewen

Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 8:25 pm Post subject:
Green sticks - got it

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 18 8:57 pm Post subject:
This also applies to blackcurrants. Not exactly native, but very tasty and good for birds.

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