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sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 1:13 pm Post subject:
The wall starters are for the internal wall and they have small tabs on apparently. The strongboys are something that fit on top of the acro props and slid in between your bricks (once you've scrapped out all the mortar) to help support the wall above. Yes it looks like it. It's very gritty and rough with what looks like all sorts in it.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 3:28 pm Post subject:

Sounds like profiles,i still reckon the reveal should be taken out and indents cut like outside to avoid drawing in damp.

Them strongboys sound like something similar to pudlocks used on scaffolding,but not for the same purpose,

If your brickwork looked or was unstable above lintel,i`d have knocked a brick out above lintel on inside and out and ran a flat bar or length of timber through with an acrow under each end,

These strongboys I`m trying to imagine as not seen one before,but sound like they would be very close to the brick work you will be building.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 4:34 pm Post subject:
stongboys are ace, they avoid the mess of needling quicker, safer and easier to put back together slot out some mortar, poke em in, jack em up, easy.

Ty Gwyn

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 5:53 pm Post subject:
That sounds like they are close to the brickwork?

dpack

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 7:47 pm Post subject:
quite close but they dont seem to get in the way if you chose placement properly.

Ty Gwyn

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 8:14 pm Post subject:
Interesting,handy for certain jobs,in this case to use them the step out lintel will have to be snapped off to get close enough,where`as taking a centre brick out above both inside and outside lintels and supporting above on runner held by an acrow inside and out well back from wall before any dismantling takes place. But at the end of the day its only 21 bricks one would be supporting.

dpack

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 11:02 pm Post subject:
if nowt moves it is easier to put back together

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 18 11:45 pm Post subject:
Exactly,hence supporting before touching lintel.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 18 12:18 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Sounds like profiles,i still reckon the reveal should be taken out and indents cut like outside to avoid drawing in damp.

Ty,

These are the things he's told me to use.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/sabrefix-wall-starter-kit-stainless-steel/56037

I was going to use breeze blocks on the inside wall so I don't think it will be too easy to do the indents as the blocks are twice the high of the bricks.

I'm not putting a lintel in because it will be supported by the bricks underneath and therefore doesn't require a lintel. Am I correct with that thinking?

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 18 1:07 pm Post subject:

Yes,they are profiles I`m on about.

What was the damp course like on the reveal when you removed the half bricks on the outside?it would have been felt that was used in that period and does deteriorate ,hence my mention of taking off the reveals to make a continuous cavity.

I understand the no need for a lintel as its already in place on inside,but have a check its not a wooden one in case its deteriorating,maybe worth you changing at this stage.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 18 1:44 pm Post subject:
Ahhhh right, just different builder speak. I've not come across the DPC yet Ty as I've still another level of bricks to remove. There are some different ones at the foot of the back door that are not bricks at all and are rounded. I'll get a picture up for you. Oh right I see, sorry for my confusion. I'll give that a check then. Thanks for all yours and DPacks help.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 18 3:13 pm Post subject:

The trouble when you`ve been a brickie you tend to talk as if the other person under stands you,lol.

I should have said Vertical dampcourse,up against the outside skin of bricks,the ones you have removed the halves from,the vertical damp course should be on the inside of these near you door frame.

Yes that picture will be interesting.

Have you noticed the makers name on these bricks?
Is it Manchester area you are or above Liverpool?
There were so many brickworks around in them days.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 18 3:41 pm Post subject:
Ahhhh I see, yes there was something black behind the bricks. It was really quite hard as well. I'll try and get a picture of that for you also. We're in Stockport. I'll have a look on the bricks I've taken out and report back.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 18 7:49 am Post subject:
There used to be lots of brickworks as you say Ty Gwyn. Our first house was built of local bricks which is now about 10 miles west of us, there was a brickworks about 2 miles down the road from us and another a couple of miles off to the east.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 18 10:08 am Post subject:
Here you go Ty, the pictures as promised. I forgot to check the bricks for a name last night but I'll do it tonight. The damp proof around the door is like a hard set bitumen sheet, as far as I can tell from looking at it.

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