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dpack
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Shan
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Ty Gwyn
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15974
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46222 Location: yes
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 21 9:45 am Post subject: |
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"That erosion started in 1985."
wounded lane, a couple of hundred yards from where i grew up did have a memorial plaque referring to an 1811 battle at longroyd bridge mills between george's dragoons and some locals who were ex handloom weavers
grapeshot vs justified grievance is a bit of a problem
that is not one folk learn at school
the plaque has eroded a lot, as has the memory of it
william horsefall(nice house now a wreck) did fall off his horse from a pistal shot,(fine by me he was a scumbag)
big enoch was not bad for breaking the frames by starving folk(capital offence)
peterloo gets a lot of publicity, but my patch was far more radical ,sooner and with good reason.
one ggg grandad, the blacksmith, was a chartist(long generational family) and made the family sword for dressing as "king arthur" in the village's repeal of the corn laws parade (armed blacksmith on a horse must have been quite a sight)
dad was AR ,reg/sf/reg, anti nazi big style and invaded yugo post war, with no orders to protect two foolish lads who strayed over the border from "ex partisans"+ youth work internationalist(a few contradictions to that ) but he liked my hardcore green direct action stuff( well without the details) and he voted tory as he thought them "stable"
a long distant ancestor profited biggly from the harrying of the north, that made me squirm a bit
complex stuff history, what we do now matters more.
ps killing all but one lass(who was a successful fugee and another ggg) of 2 generations in the great famine , the clearances also feature in my history
the more i get to know the less i like scum.
ps one of the best parties i have ever been to involved dressing miners as modern Rebeccas to smuggle them to the old pankhurst house
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tahir
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 45672 Location: Essex
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 21 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Mistress Rose wrote: |
Tahir, we used to have a Canda factory not far from us and both my SILs worked there at one time. It shut years ago, and of course C&A, who they made for, are long gone too. Is it the speed that people are supposed to work, the pay or conditions or what? Or is it that people aren't 'educated' for factory work these days? Not meaning to be rude, but we have heard some nasty stories about some clothing manufacturers lately, and while I am sure you wouldn't directly run anything like that, some of your contractors might try to get away with it.
I rather suspect that the idea of ordering something and expecting it to turn up next day at very low prices might be going out of the window as the result of Covid 19/Brexit/ using more of income for necessities. I must say that it would please us if people did a bit more forward planning rather than expect firewood the day after they order in the middle of a cold snap in winter. |
Didn't see this. I could write an essay on the subject, but in bullet points:
Wages - With clothes as cheap as they are wages are not competitive
Conditions - As above
Social Status - Any manual labour is seen as low status nowadays
1 & 2 could easily be addressed by the major retailers if they were so minded, but we've worked at all levels from the bottom end to some designer brands and despite all the policies and commitments they really don't give a flying f@%$ what's going on on the ground. |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15974
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 21 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that Tahir. I agree; youngsters are educated to work on computers and in offices these days, and don't even thing about other work. I know a lot of people tend to look down on us working in the woods, although both son and I are educated to degree level, and husband not far behind. That is, until they find out we are land owners, then their ideas change a bit. Mine of them don't though.
Although C&A were probably about the first cut price retailer, and the way their clothes were made reflected that, the proliferation of cut price outlets hasn't done anyone any good. Lets hope this pandemic has a good effect on it. Shame the expensive brands aren't better paying, so they must be the greedy ones.
Dpack, you have an interesting ancestry. Mine seem to have been small farmers in the direct line, but some did things like straw plaiting to make hats, and there is a doctor, a pharmacist, and an oilman going back in other lines, so pretty tame really. |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46222 Location: yes
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15974
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tahir
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 45672 Location: Essex
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46222 Location: yes
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tahir
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 45672 Location: Essex
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46222 Location: yes
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 21 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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umm give em a virtual hug from me
i have an 1898 light bulb that has a filament with a lowish resistance, ie potentially functional, very collectable to a niche market, and that market is global specialized nerds
how i can shift that is beyond me at the mo, packing the thing , insurance and "gentle transport" is bad enough but back and forth and unknown papers makes a £200 to 300 item ridiculous
the rather nice ceramics might sell in the uk but one is too nice to limit the market(1740 bottle vase/sake jar and some very nice later edo stuff that is not rare) edo stuff needs global, sometimes i am lucky and spot good Chinese stuff which also needs global , well to china
sit on "the lady" could be very wise for a variety of reasons or she may be a "decorator piece" nah later for that one
to be her protector feels wrong, i am a man, i am not of her culture, she may well have been stolen from her homeland by a colonialist a long time ago. i have respect and will do the best i can for her, those who made her for ace reasons and me
i am conflicted on this one and have traded all sorts of morally dubious stuff from history she is special
but i need a global market for her, and i might be fussy about the buyer as well
my trades have issues as well but not as immediate as those you and your chums have.
my stuff is out of date before i get it, unlike shellfish |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15974
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 21 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Hope you get everything sorted out Tahir and it is just 'teething troubles'. What annoys me, in addition to the trouble I know people like you are having, is that I keep getting information about exporting 'tailored to our business', which says we 'may need' certain things, if a. we exported, or b. we were in a different part of the business. We have always avoided export as the things most people want are wood and there have always been barriers for that especially 'bark on', which applies to our besom brooms. We have had several enquiries from the US as they can't get British type besoms easily.
Btw, does anyone know if there is a world shortage of dried fruit at the moment, is there a problem importing, or has Mr. Sainsbury not been paying his bills? |
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gz
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 8925 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
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