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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 21 1:50 am Post subject: i have no idea what you might need but
i have been getting stuff that is in the uk that soon will be much more expensive or unavailable drill bits, camera stuff(yep, one of the last two grips in the uk), consumables like abrasive paper and rechargeable batteries light bulbs was done a while back ummm

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 8949
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 21 9:20 am Post subject:
Very sensible. My brother has been doing this since 2016....

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 21 10:53 am Post subject:

sensible chap, that was when i started on LV solar and portable +water purifying stuff
i just added sous vide vacpack bags (guess where i had to cull the dubious typo of"g"

) and more silicon carbide papers

a couple of months ago the direct from china route was getting impossible(covid, brexit and a lot of containers being stored rather than returned has made the iron silk road and huge boat thing difficult)

a cubic meter of bogroll has never seemed vital, regardless of popular opinion, food is always available even if it has to be small, spineless and wriggling(eating a gove might make me gag but prepping it would be fun) and strangely there have been some rather nice bonus buys in the food department(langoustine tails at £15 a kilo is rather nice)as the top end catering and export stuff is stuffed.
i have been getting nice local meat from the catering and farm shop folk delivered(hence vacbags) etc

this is a slightly odd but understandable problem i still have, replacing my 1 litre saucepan is an issue, a good one at a decent price may be a footnote in history

stuff like drill bits, well decent ones, are very much fear of being left out considering where such things get made.

the brexit lies of "buy britsh, it bee best" fell at the first fence as there is very little i need manufactured in the uk, unless i went shopping for half decent ordinance

when the cccp fell to bits and into the hands of kleptocratic oligarchs the cubans who had been looked after with assorted supplies were in deep trouble, hence window boxes of veg and chooks on the balcony clucking rumbas , the ex soviet locals in eurasia had a lot of problems as well.
the uk is not quite at that stage yet unless you have no money(like many) but it seems to be heading that way

i recon we are only a couple of degrees of separation from "failed state status"

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 21 12:50 am Post subject:
I'm sure the trade deals will be coming. Prices may not ever be as low again for the quality expected, but it'll likely be closer to normal after getting worse for a bit. Our country has no reason to not want to sell to you.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 21 10:27 am Post subject:

i like quality and a bargain
much as i respect things like milwarkee power tools(ace kit but not cheap although considering how strong they are they are a bargain if they get a lot of use) the extra 40%£ on a decent camembert is unlikely to be offset by cheap orange cheese(no offence to "mother" who became a proper cheese maker)

getting one of the last two , "in country" battery grips that fit my camera japanese brand but made in china before they were either unavailable or far more expensive made sense was rather revealing of current and probably ongoing conditions

decent abrasive papers, well

EU or china, either have now become more expensive or difficult

there is scope for "free trading" at a profit, much like the old school thing of television sets, cornflakes, cows and fuel etc over the english border in ireland or the good folk of kernow with brandywine and tobacco from france when german george got worried about revolutions

sanctions have advantages, but they come with a risk, the disadvantages hit most folk hard

while typing this i started to wonder how this will impact on basmati rice

"self" imposed sanctions are stupid and deserve the contempt i have for them

there is also outgoing, i have some rather nice old ceramics i want to sell on, confining me to a domestic market without export barriers and vastly extra costs for globally would have been better

a pandemic, even handled like the uk scumgov have, is a blip, making global sales harder long term is no way to make england great again.

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 3467
Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 21 4:56 am Post subject:

If EU exporters to the UK have lost enough sales, they will presumably open up UK distribution centres, the same as UK exporters to the continent are having to do in the EU (shutting down half their UK operations and moving them to the EU, with the associated "transfer" of employee headcount - see here).

I predict less EU exporters opening up shop in the UK than the inverse, as they can still sell to their biggest market with no trade barriers so the percentage hit in turnover is far, far lower and may not justify the additional hassle.

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 3:05 pm Post subject:

from btl

Tim1960
5m ago
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This is interesting:
Michael M. @vivamjm

It might be worse than "economists warned about" but not worse than we mere (ex) Freight Fowarding/Customs Agents tried to warn of....

https://eand.co/congrats-america-youre-not-the-dumbest-country-in-the-world-anymore-britain-is-badad4d64754">https://eand.co/congrats-america-youre-not-the-dumbest-country-in-the-world-anymore-britain-is-badad4d6475">https://eand.co/congrats-america-youre-not-the-dumbest-country-in-the-world-anymore-britain-is-badad4d64754

The reality of Brexit is much, much worse than we economists warned about. It goes like this. The British economy is starting to shut down like a heart attack. Europe is simply stopping sending goods to Britain, and Britain to Europe. The costs involved have soared from “nothing” to “impossible.” ... Faced with mountains of paperwork for each shipment, businesses are just giving up, throwing their hands up in despair. And that means a) mass unemployment, as they go bankrupt b) shortages and c) higher prices. Sound dire? It is.

British people are shocked, suddenly — after voting for Brexit — to discover that ordering stuff from Europe, which used to be as simple as a click, now comes with massive taxes, customs, and suspicious “handling charges,” which they have to pay, or else. Charges that easily add 25% to 50% to the cost of basic things. And while we economists warned Brexit would make Brits poorer, even we underestimated the effect. We thought tariffs would rise, but we didn’t think that trade would come to a sudden stop, which means mass unemployment and shortages and higher prices are all exploding. That’s the worst case scenario, and it’s fast becoming real.

There's more. Much more. Pointing out, with some digs at the sort of entitled twats who pushed this lunacy, the catastrophic effect of a nation imposing sanctions on itself in a fit of nationalistic delusion.

Only now it isn't Project Fear, it's Project Here and Now.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 3:28 pm Post subject:

ps sending gifts or goods to the eu now has restrictions, taxes, tariffs and extra handling charges as well

there was a notice on the postal self-service machine in the post office mentioning it and to ask at the counter if that was the destination

as an aside the city centre was not a ghost town, mcdonalds had quite a few unmasked teens milling about etc, more than half the shops are shut an extra 15% are empty, no tourists who usually are most of the footfall, getting a key cut or shoe mended might be tricky, few workers etc to buy the assorted fast food snacks even if they are open many have shut

dismal

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 4:03 pm Post subject:
pps stock up on things already in the uk now seems even more sensible as this deliberate disaster/stupidity voter's consequences develops. 37% voters and 43% of the votes are not mandates

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 6:43 pm Post subject:
It's all gone according to plan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics It just wasn't our plans. It's crazy how in the open their planning has been, and how little that has mattered

dpack

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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 8:37 pm Post subject:

umm fascinating, fairly obvious in effect in some places such as here where a combo of useful idiots and easily bought politicals(also useful idiots for the most part cos they have been very cheap to buy) seem to have enacted the uk part of things.

re planning openly, another branch of the same firm(big fossil and milkit+some locals) planned redrawing the map of the middle east in shade but not darkness has had considerable success.

i dought the average "red wall new tory" or brexit voter even has the reading skills* let alone the analytical ones to see how they have been duped at a domestic level, let alone at a geopolitical one(that summat about places and rocks ?

might be beyond many of them)
give them three word slogans and a flag/face colour/comforting lie or fear to follow, and they are easy meat

odd this is in shopping, but it is as relevant here as everywhere

*sun readers have an average RA expected of a 9 year old, even grauniad readers only get up to 14 year old standards, how those who get their info from facesell groups and assorted "blacksites" fit on that metric i do not know
( i cannot be bothered with uppercase on DS but i do know how to use it and punctuation etc and spellcheck is very ace, but i can write a dissertation or post for strangers in a formal way, read technical stuff and analyse smoke and mirrors to establish the most likely truths

)

the average brexit voter considers anyone with a book without 20 pictures and 40 words in the house metropolitan elite

sorry to rant but living in an idiocracy is a bit annoying.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 9:15 pm Post subject:
Are tariffs reducing Brawndo consumption? *It has electrolytes!

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46244
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 10:30 pm Post subject:
no idea, such things were popular but that is a brand/generic/satire name we do not have afaik monster and redbull are two with names that were popular here sugar, caffeine,taurine, i prefer meth although i decided i was too old for artificial bouncy and daft a long while back a nice coffee is about as class A upper as i get

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 21 10:58 pm Post subject:
Have you not actually seen idiocracy?!

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46244
Location: yes

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 21 7:21 am Post subject:

no, i will seek it out

i do live in one, putting this crew into power only took around 40% of the votes, i assume most of those were under average intelligence rather than in line for some very nice kleptocratic contracts
admittedly corbyn was unelectable for a variety of reasons but that reflects badly on the intelligence/judgement of those in the plp at the time who believed they could gain power with a lexit platform

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