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sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 22 8:05 am Post subject:
Thank you for that advice Slim and DPack. I'll start removing some of the lower leaves.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 22 9:46 am Post subject:
Do it on a dry morning if you can!

Nicky cigreen

Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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Location: Devon, uk

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 22 3:34 pm Post subject:

I also remove the lower leaves up to the first flower truss -mostly to avoid blight - that way you are not watering the leaves, and there is more air flow.

my greenhouse issues with whatever was eating the roots went away on application of nematodes. It also seemed to remove the red ant population, that I have been gardening side by side with for many years. They came back though. Then went away again, as soon as I started leaving the greenhouse doors open - our resident blackbird nips in and scoffs all the ants. Often found myself standing outside waiting until she has finished so I can go in and water...

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 22 8:37 pm Post subject:
if weevil killing nematodes got em it was weevils, they will be back the good news is after a few goes weevil nematodes will be endemic as will a few weevils a few is not much of a problem, lots is boil the soil

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 22 8:21 am Post subject:
Thanks Slim and Nicky. I'll get on with that this weekend.

Nicky cigreen

Joined: 25 Jun 2007
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Location: Devon, uk

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 22 5:54 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

if weevil killing nematodes got em it was weevils, they will be back

the good news is after a few goes weevil nematodes will be endemic as will a few weevils
a few is not much of a problem, lots is boil the soil

i used a broad spectrum nematode, and continued to plant plants, and they stopped dying. so I don't know that it is vine weevils, nor do I know if I cured the problem - because last year things got better after a bit, and that is without me using nematodes. I suspect there comes a time when grubs turn into their moths or whatever they want to be when they grow up and stop eating plant roots.
The greenhouse is an unnatural confined area, so things can easily get out of balance. I think having the door open and birds scoffing ants and grubs is part of the rebalance. I'm hoping my use of nematodes has helped rebalance too. It did seem like I applied they, and the plants stopped dying. but time will tell.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 22 6:56 am Post subject:
Hope it works Nicky. We have had vine weevils in pot plants before now. They are easier to kill there, as removing the plant and boiling water treatment is easier than in a greenhouse.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 22 6:21 pm Post subject:
lavender moved and shade leaves removed, they are a bit bigger than the last snap and i need to remember where the string is every few days shiny does seem to help not a controlled study , based on anecdote from that microlocation, weather and lumens by camera, shiny seems to work to maximize what sunlight is available i have a snap from a few days back, i need to do a new one

dpack

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 22 12:57 pm Post subject:
two more levels of string, i decidedly need a new snap plenty of flowers and embryo toms so far, just fed them again as they looked as though they might get hungry soon after an hour, the colour balance has swerved to green by about ten percent

dpack

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 22 12:58 pm Post subject:
ps and more string as i noticed an unsupported flowering branch on the bushier one

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 22 1:23 pm Post subject:
I've got some about the size of a golf ball. We get a later start for outdoor transplanting, but even this cooler summer here is perhaps more warmth to drive fast growth

dpack

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 22 5:53 pm Post subject:
the prototoms are 5 to 7mm so far, at least it shows they are getting fertilized and setting fruit or berries or whatever the eating bits are called still growing up, out and more flowers they have another couple of feet up they can go, at that point i will top them to get them to play fruit not size

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15998

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 22 6:41 am Post subject:
Sounds good. I have a few tomatoes on mine, but the bottom truss didn't set very well, although there are some tomatoes on it. I also have some peppers set on one plant, some tiny courgettes and a couple of squashes, but all very small at the moment.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 22 10:04 am Post subject:
Shady leaves removed and I'm still pulling toms off with blossom end rot but I'm hoping that slows down now. I think it's going to be a bad year for toms and beans on the allotment.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 22 10:23 am Post subject:
The tricky bit with blossom end rot is that the conditions causing it occurred days before you see it.

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