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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28235 Location: escaped from Swindon
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 24 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Battery claims
The following link is to the complete list of claims I have been compiling.
https://martindavidwalker.blogspot.com/2024/09/battery-claims.html
The new claims in the last week are as follows.
October 2nd 2024, Altech deploy solid state sodium chloride battery for testing
The batteries are claimed to have a 15 year lifetime. Cheap sodium batteries are a key factor in renewable energy storage.
https://www.eqs-news.com/news/corporate/altech-advanced-materials-ag-puts-first-cerenergy-battery-prototype-batterypack-abs60-into-operation/2139847
September 29th 2024, Hyundai promises cheaper LFP battery production
The article alludes to the much touted $100 per kwh figure that was meant to mark production price parity with ICE cars, and puts the 2023 cost at $139. But both BYD and CATL have talked about prices halving in 2024 which would put current costs at $70.
The Hyundai process which eliminates a production step is a promise of another cost reduction.
https://cleantechnica.com/2024/09/27/hyundai-cooks-up-a-low-cost-ev-battery-scheme-for-the-affordable-ev-of-the-future/
September 26th 2024, General Motors to produce CATLs 6c charging battery in China
This is a life line for general motors whose sales have collapsed in China. News on this battery that can fully charge in 10 minutes has been around since June, but now we hear it will be in cars in 2025.
https://carnewschina.com/2024/09/26/general-motors-to-produce-ultra-fast-6c-charging-ev-in-china/
September 25th 2024, cheap iron chloride cathodes
The revolutionary material, iron chloride (FeCl3), costs a mere 1-2% of typical cathode materials and can store the same amount of electricity.
The cost of their whole battery system is 30-40% of current LIBs as no Nickel or Cobalt is used.
The technology is pitched as being less than 5 years from commercialisation.
https://news.gatech.edu/news/2024/09/22/new-battery-cathode-material-could-revolutionize-ev-market-and-energy-storage
September 23rd 20202, Lechanche launch long life battery with niobium based anode
The claim is a 10,000 life cycle battery suitable for heavy duty mining applications. |
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jema Downsizer Moderator
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jema Downsizer Moderator
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tahir
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Nicky cigreen
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tahir
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tahir
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tahir
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Nicky cigreen
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 24 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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tahir wrote: |
Used car values have collapsed, I don't think petrol or diesel cars are doing any better.
I don't think a petrol/diesel car would have retained more value over 8 years than my brothers Tesla has. |
I don't agree.Aa quick google on the subject gives multiple hits showing that EVs and hybrids lose more value than ICE. Good news, I guess, if you want to buy a secondhand EV, not so good if you want to sell. This might just be a reflection of EVs being too expensive in the beginning..
everyone is quoting figures from HPI, eg autocar who state that 3 year old EVs are 8% lower in retail price than diesel. and 14% lower for 4 year old cars.
good news, as I said for people wanting to buy secondhand, personally I am the kind of person who buys a car and sticks with it to the end of its life, but for those that like to swap every 3 or 4 years, this will make them hesitate. |
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