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Mistress Rose
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dpack
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dpack
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 23 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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the viability of local production depends on the legal and economic conditions applying to local vs import
re conditions for ethical and sustainable farming, putting hedge fund managers, wannabe kleptocrats, idiots and probable hostile assets in charge of national policies might not be ideal
it is hard without that, with it, it aint going to happen.
coffee was hardly a poster girl for health policy, at farming and environment she is even less convincing than gove was with his countryfile countryside and lies about fish
the lynx issue is high on my not to-do do list a dead cat got clap
domestic, ethical and sustainable, food for 65 million in the uk and a bit left over to swap for saffron is plausible, although challenging
it is not plausible without good radical long term planning and execution of the plan as it develops
at the mo it seems unlikely if simple stuff like health, pollution, energy and transport are examples of government work |
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Ty Gwyn
Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 4613 Location: Lampeter
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 23 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 23 3:25 pm Post subject:
domestic, ethical and sustainable, food for 65 million in the uk and a bit left over to swap for saffron is plausible, although challenging
it is not plausible without good radical long term planning and execution of the plan as it develops
There lie`s the crux of the matter,the radical planning is quite the opposite,every political party wants to reduce livestock numbers in the UK,give grants to big concerns to plant tree`s on Productive land,whole farms that have been purchased to off set their carbon usage,our own Government in Wales has purchased good land to plant tree`s on,when there`s plenty of disused opencast land still looking like a moonscape.
Foreign meats have been imported into the UK for decades and with the governmental run down of farming one can only expect more. |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15972
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Ty Gwyn
Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 4613 Location: Lampeter
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dpack
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 23 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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the places food is imported from are at considerable risk of both geopolitics and climate catastrophe
current local production is based on the import market for primary supplies such as soya and artificial fertilizer and more than half of human edible products are directly imported
land use in the uk is ridiculous, based on ownership rather than logic and efficiency
even when land is being used for production it could be done far better for both productivity and sustainability as well as resilience to future and current environmental challenges
for radical leave what is ongoing in the food sector alone for the mo
add plenty of affordable renewable energy for intensive uses such as fertilizer, lights, heat as soon as available
use underperforming land(the usual suspects) and make it productive in appropriate ways, see above and intensive growing but also "greener" things such as soil and forest development
think local, hi tec salad from a city centre ex retail site or a forlorn hope of a Moroccan tomato?
bulk calories/carbs is a bit of an issue in the uk, a change of diet might be nice and more plausible than the current one
Protein is no bother if one is adventurous in biochemistry or wriggly things in a pan, vertebrates can be organized quite well in the right regimes
if the sea is clean and well managed, there are multiple opportunities for food
even windowbox scale adds up
or collapse the supply chain, give it a few weeks, plenty to go round if they know what to eat |
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dpack
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dpack
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tahir
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dpack
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Mistress Rose
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dpack
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Ty Gwyn
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