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jamsam

Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 10:52 am Post subject: are labradours dangerous???

not sure if this is entirely the right place for this..but i will have a go...

what would you do if you had opened the door this morning and a labradour had bolted into the house and started really going for your dog??
i managed to get betweeen them and i admit i kicked the lab very hard under the chin, so it let go longenough for me to get a lead around it and drag it out, i beleive it was foaming at the mouth at that point.
that was when i realised a 10 year old was wlaking it with no collar and it was off the lead in the village high street.
i suppose i should go and talk to his mum really..but after all the recent issuses with dogs, what do i say???

2steps

Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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Location: Surrey

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:00 am Post subject:

that would worry me if it was any dog, but I see where your coming from labs are normally so gentle

I had a simular thing happen with my old neighbours german shepherd. She was a loverly dog just couldn't tolerate other dogs. MY OH had to get hold of her under the belly from behind to drag her out as she had my staffy pinned to the floor

even if it was a one off it does seem irresponsible to me that a child was in charge of the dog without even a lead

It was a labrador that attacked my chickens, killing one

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:08 am Post subject:
Its the popular breed problem; when a breed gets popular then two things occur. One is that idiots keep them, and the other is that bad breeding stock is used because theres a good market for the dogs. There are some monster labs out there now

dpack

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:10 am Post subject:
chairs are a good tool in a dog fight try a nice chat with his mum ,for the dogs sake as much as anyone else . might be an old lab but dogs are dogs and any can turn nasty given the right stimuli

nora

Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:17 am Post subject:

My youngest son was pushed to the ground and bitten on the neck when he was 4 by a labrador on the beach. We had to kick the dog to get it to let go of him and the dogs owners(Elderly couple) stood by and watched. I think they were shocked by it as much as we were. They kept saying...but he loves children.
When I worked as a nurse in casualty most of the dog bites were done by labradors so I am wary of them.

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:21 am Post subject:

nora wrote:

When I worked as a nurse in casualty most of the dog bites were done by labradors so I am wary of them.

Terrifying, isn't it? I've heard that from other nurses too.

It was a labrador that tried to have at me in the local woods. Came up snapping and snarling at me, I held my shrooming basket in the way and yelled it down, then the owner pulled it back and explained that it didn't like my basket, as if that somehow excuses letting an aggressive dog off the leash!

My own solution to dangerous dogs is to take them all and give them to people who know how to handle them properly; you know, give them good excercise, discipline when they need it, firm handling, and a thick rug to lie on in front ofa fire. Then take all the irresponsible owners who were mishandling their dogs and put them in little wire cages

jamsam

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:22 am Post subject:
the main issue i have is with a child walking adog with no collar and obviously off the lead...i wont allow my boys to even hold the lead when we are out just incase he bolts. i suppose i will just have to brave it...

2steps

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 11:44 am Post subject:

I'm sure its actually illegal for a dog to be out in public without identification. If it wasn't wearing a collar then it couldn't of been wearing a tag with a phone number etc on.

I agree, I don't let my children hold the dog either. As much as they are well behaved and I trust them you can never be 100% sure they won't run for something....

I had this the other week over my chickens. The dog came from next door and isn't really cared for very well anyway. I really didn't want to speak to the owners as I knew I'd get a mouthful back

in the end the rspca ended up involved but that has meant that she is being a little better cared for, thought shes mainly locked outside at least she's safe as she can't escape

Rosa

Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 5:09 pm Post subject:

My labrador is really gentle but I have taken him to training classes and we are doing the kennel club good citizen dog awards. He has his silver and we are going on for gold. I think that is an excellent scheme and all dog owners should be encouraged to participate in something similar. I have a friend with a labrador that cannot be trusted not to attack people or other dogs so you do get some bad ones. They are very strong dogs. Yes, they should always have an identification tag.

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 5:18 pm Post subject:
Only dog owners are dangerous.

MrsWW

Joined: 06 Jun 2006
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Location: West Sussex

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 5:25 pm Post subject:

Bodger - how true!

Some of the people I've seen round our way with dogs should have them taken away from them as they've obviously no idea how to train/treat the dogs.

One example is a local who spends Saturday afternoons on the beer (nothing wrong with that) - but he lives in a ground floor flat with sliding doors and gets so p*****d he leaves the doors open so's his dog just runs out to bother passersby! If you try and say anything to him (which I did) when his dog was trying to have a go at mine - all I got was a mouthful of drunken abuse!

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 5:45 pm Post subject:

I should think you are more likely to get bitten by a lab or retreiver, because there are so many more of them than other kinds. You do get odd dogs though - we know one who takes noisy and scary objection to our tilley hats. Once we've taken them off, he's the nicest little thing you could meet!

I'm with cab about the owners - the amount of times I have say to people calm down - how can you expect the dog to be good and quiet if you are leaping around and yelling like a lunatic!? There are very, very few truly bad dogs, and sadly millions of terrible owners.

He might have been chipped, but he should have been wearing a collar. We often walk ours without leads, but only to heel, so they'd never get away (for their own saftey!)

Like the idea of the kennel club thingy - must have a look at that. Our dogs loved training.

2steps

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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 6:09 pm Post subject:
I don't think a microchip counts, the id has to be visable to anyone who might need it.

Bog Spavin

Joined: 25 May 2006
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Location: North Yorkshire

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 7:55 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Its the popular breed problem; when a breed gets popular then two things occur. One is that idiots keep them, and the other is that bad breeding stock is used because theres a good market for the dogs. There are some monster labs out there now

These are wise words, I grew up in a dog breeding and training home then went on to work border collies my circumstances changed and I now have a six month old chocolate labrador. I researched his breeding and have invested a lot of time in him and I am very pleased with his progress but I see many poor examples of the breed in both temperament and conformation. I am sorry to hear of peoples bad experiences but please remember that trained well these dogs are seeing eyes, home assistants to the disabled and companions to many.

hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 06 8:37 pm Post subject:

bodger wrote:

Only dog owners are dangerous.

Agree!

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