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roobarb



Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Location: Carmarthenshire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 5:06 pm    Post subject: Septic tank registration? Reply with quote
    

I'm not sure if this is the right section to put this in, but it is to do with property....

Has anyone heard about the registering of your septic tank/cess pit?

I noticed a brief article in the recent GWLAD magazine (the magazine that farmers/smallholders receive in Wales), which reminded people in Wales with a septic tank that they need to register it by the 31st December. This is the first I've heard about it (or certainly in Wales, I vaguely remember my Dad making some mention of it for houses in England). We haven't received anything from the Environment Agency/Welsh Assembly about this and wonder if anyone else has in Wales? Have we missed something?

I mentioned it to one of our neighbours as well and he hadn't heard about it either.

Does anyone know what the implications are of registering or not registering (the bit I read suggested fines etc. for not registering)? I also read it was now under review in England, so not compulsory, but in Wales it was still going ahead.

 
Green Rosie



Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 10498
Location: Calvados, France
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Not sure if it's a European thing. All new French septic tanks are supposed to be checked by an organisation called SPANC before they are buried. OH, with considerable difficulty, left all ours and the filtration pipes open only to discover that our commune has no SPANC covering it and therefore couldn't be checked

 
Cathryn



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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Location: Ceredigion
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's totally daft and easy to register online.

 
mochyn



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My worry is that 'they' will then charge us for having a septic tank. Any ideas?

 
Green Rosie



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Location: Calvados, France
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Not in France it ain't - https://eco-gites.blogspot.com/search?q=SPANC

 
Cathryn



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There are too many of us who would just tell them where to go.

 
Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cathryn wrote:
There are too many of us who would just tell them where to go.


But if you get a legally enforcable bill you're stuffed. Easier to avoid the issue.


Behemoth, find out, let us know.

 
Behemoth



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Location: Leeds
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No idea. Will mooch around.

 
crofter



Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We were supposed to register our septic tanks (in Scotland) last year, (or maybe the year before?) Not many people must have bothered to register because they then had an "amnesty" when you could register them for free before a certain date. I did hear that you will not be able to sell a house with an unregistered tank, but I am not sure that I see any real advantages to registration, and suspect it will not be long before the "septic tank licence" begins to incur an annual fee.

 
Behemoth



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Very briefly, I think, a discharge from a septic tanks needs to be registered. Over 2m3 discharge per day is to be controlled like any other sewage discharge. Good. Under 2m3 a day you need to register but get an exemption. This will cover most domestic tanks.

https://www.defra.gov.uk/publications/files/pb13561-ep2010waterdischarge-101220.pdf

 
wizz



Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 561

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/118753.aspx
might also be of interest
- everyone posting at once!

Last edited by wizz on Thu Nov 24, 11 10:21 pm; edited 1 time in total

 
Behemoth



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

crofter wrote:
We were supposed to register our septic tanks (in Scotland) last year, (or maybe the year before?) Not many people must have bothered to register because they then had an "amnesty" when you could register them for free before a certain date. I did hear that you will not be able to sell a house with an unregistered tank, but I am not sure that I see any real advantages to registration, and suspect it will not be long before the "septic tank licence" begins to incur an annual fee.


If you want to manage the water quality in a watercourse you ned to know what's going into it and from where. That includes sewage effluent form sewage works, farms, and septic, inlcuding the impact of soakaways. Not so long ago many of the villages in the flatter bits of east Yorkshire were surrounded by ditches which were no more than open sewers because of the inadequate treatment from poorly maintained tanks.

 
pookie



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Location: Mid-Wales
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Seems it is going to be compulsory in Wales first.

https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/132387.aspx

https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/118753.aspx

https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/132391.aspx


sorry posted before refreshing new posts

 
alice



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 2820

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

crofter wrote:
We were supposed to register our septic tanks (in Scotland) last year, (or maybe the year before?) Not many people must have bothered to register because they then had an "amnesty" when you could register them for free before a certain date. I did hear that you will not be able to sell a house with an unregistered tank, but I am not sure that I see any real advantages to registration, and suspect it will not be long before the "septic tank licence" begins to incur an annual fee.


That was the conclusion we came to - especially the bit about a subsequent fee. And the 'amnesty' made us laugh.

 
gil
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 11 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've not heard of this from anyone I know round here, and we all have septic tanks.

 
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