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bebilja

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 04 6:58 am Post subject: pizza oven
A pizza oven was shown o TV last night anyone got any plans to help me construct one?

sean
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 04 7:58 am Post subject:
Welcome to the forums bebilja. I haven't got plans for one myself, but other people will be along later. One of Jeffrey Steingartens books has quite a bit about how to use a lidded barbecue as a pizza oven substitute, if that's any help.

McLay455

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 04 7:58 am Post subject:
Here is a book with plans https://www.tesco.com/books/product.aspx?R=090732570X

wellington womble

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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 04 9:38 am Post subject:
OH and I were discussing pizza recently. We have a wood burning stove, so if we got it really hot, and put a slab of stone or something over the embers, could we cook pizza directly on that? I know some one suggested putting a chunk of marble in your oven for this kind of thing, but I don't know whether it would crack or explode going from cold to hot so quickly.

jema
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 04 9:56 am Post subject:
What are the criteria for a Pizza oven? jema

Bugs

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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 04 9:59 am Post subject:

To hijack the conversation as well...when we went to visit some friends in France this year they had a large outdoor oven that needs to be restored (it's beautiful and could be well worth the effort). Has anyone seen the book (Mr McLay?

) - does it
have any decent details on original ovens?

Or any idea where we might look for such details?

It looks rather like the bottom left pic on this page:

https://www.elmolinospain.com/El%20Molino%20Viejo.htm

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 04 5:12 pm Post subject:

wellington womble wrote:

OH and I were discussing pizza recently. We have a wood burning stove, so if we got it really hot, and put a slab of stone or something over the embers, could we cook pizza directly on that? I know some one suggested putting a chunk of marble in your oven for this kind of thing, but I don't know whether it would crack or explode going from cold to hot so quickly.

A slab of marble would be interesting, but a pizza brick, as they are sold is much more permeable. The point of it is to provide somewhere for the moisture to escape. And they work.

However, the problem with your oven (all of ours) is they don't get anywhere near hot enough. Steingarten conducted experiments and iirc, temperatures were about twice what could be achieved with a domestic oven.

The one built on TV the other night was a fairly simple brick affair made simply to hold a fire, and had a domed roof to help diffuse the heat, and not loose too much. And that seemed to work.

I'd thin building one would be cheap and easy, but you'd have to have plenty of room, or be very much in love with pizza to make it worthwhile, I guess.

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jema
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 04 5:37 pm Post subject:
I wonder if you could make a dual pizza/Tandoori oven? I know a tandoori oven is clay and has a particualr shape for the method of cooking, but surely the fundermental point is also the high heat. jema

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 04 9:54 pm Post subject:

jema wrote:

I wonder if you could make a dual pizza/Tandoori oven?

I know a tandoori oven is clay and has a particualr shape for the method of cooking, but surely the fundermental point is also the high heat.

jema

I look forward to your next project.

jema
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 04 10:01 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

jema wrote:

I look forward to your next project.

You may speak truer than you know

jema

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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 04 10:00 am Post subject:

McLay455 wrote:

Here is a book with plans
https://www.tesco.com/books/product.aspx?R=090732570X

Well Santa must read this site as I've a copy of 'Building a Wood-Fired Oven for Bread and Pizza' by Tom Jaine.

First glance through it looks very useful and I could be tempted to try something out next year on a small scale.

I've often thought about combining an oven and BBQ. Oven on one side where you can place some logs and then rake out the embers to BBQ over while the bread bakes.

jema
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 04 10:08 am Post subject:
Well don't forget to take plenty of photos when you try, though I Guess this will not be a winter project? jema

McLay455

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 04 11:26 am Post subject:

When my children were young,I made a barbeque out of 2 stainless sinks (single bowl,no drainer) hinged together with a stainless hinge. The drain holes were diagonally opposite each other with small metal flaps bolted so that the draught could be adjusted. Trays made of stainless expamet spaced by pup firebricks
and stood on pup firebricks meant that you could stand it on a picnic table.
Pup firebricks have three dimensions so you could alter the spacings.
You could use it as a hot smoker/barbeque and with a solid sheet of stainless a hot oven.
It went in the boot of the car witha bag of charcoal and you could go anywhere with it.
It never rusted or burnt out.
If you had a big party you could open it up and have two barbeques side by side.
So many people asked me to make one for them,I at one time thought about making a business out of it.

jema
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 04 11:41 am Post subject:
Sounds brilliant, funny isn't with this sort of stuff, commerical products are all about "show". Making stuff at home you can trully concentrate on function jema

McLay455

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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 04 3:23 pm Post subject:

I agree -- my smokers are a good example of that.
If you noticed HFW made his out of a cider barrel, but he (wrongly IMO) jigsawed the ends out of the barrel.
If you knock the ends out and rebuild with stainless woodscrews through the hoops into the staves, and use the top and bottom as lids, you have a smoker that will last for years .

My smokers were the result of many attempts to build smokers (out of all sorts of things). I was driving past a distillery one day and saw all these barrels stacked up high. It was Pi&&ing down, and I thought "They keep them out in the rain to stop them leaking" -- must make a good smoker -- hey presto!

I have also made (from whisky barrels )

dog kennels
timber stores
mail box
planters

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