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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46233
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 4:29 pm Post subject:
im puzzled by squirel season ,in the uk the grey (yankie)ones are classed as pest they are tastiest after the hazelnut season but fair game all year are they not a problem in the land of their ancestors ?

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 5:11 pm Post subject:
There are numerous species of squirrels over in the US and even more predators queuing up to eat them.

Jam Lady

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 2571
Location: New Jersey, USA

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 10:11 pm Post subject:

Squirrel is a regionally popular game animal. Classic Kentucky burgoo, for example, should be made with squirrel. Of late there are warnings against eating the brains. My local gray squirrels are eaten by owls, hawks, coyotes, pretty much whatever catches them. But not - at least around here - by people.

Woodchuck and raccoon are generally shot as vermin. I have cooked both, but only once or twice.

And dpack, it's yankee, not yankie. Your innovative spelling makes me think of hankie (handkerchief) and I just know that's not what you intended. Of course there's Thomas Jefferson - "I have nothing but contempt for a man who can only spell a word one way." So who am I to say you're wrong. Go for it, any way you like.

Bear is eaten. I've never had it but understand that the paws are considered a delicacy. Of course the skin will be tanned for a rug. Expensive.

Deer / venison is very popular. I love chili made with ground venison, or back strap, seared in a hot cast iron frying pan, then coated with first with mustard, then bread crumbs and quickly finished in a hot oven. Serve with chestnut puree (I loathe peeling them, but the results are worth it), braised cabbage, and a Beaujolais nouveau.

Game birds - various ducks, ruffed grouse, quail. Pheasant is really put-and-take, cage reared birds that practically must be shooed to fly, so they may be shot. Wild turkey, wily game.

Game may not be sold. So for all the free-range, organic, locavore venison running around Hunterdon County, the only venison in the stores is ranched, often imported from New Zealand. Daft.

So yes, around here there's lots of game, lots of hunters.

Jam Lady

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 2571
Location: New Jersey, USA

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 10:21 pm Post subject: Cooking with venison

Speaking of venison recipes - years and years ago I got a call from a friend. He and his two hunting buddies had gotten two deer. Did I want to come and help dress them out? They had, of course, been field dressed.

So there I was on a cold winter evening, in a garage with three men, two dead deer, and a bottle of Scotch. They're cutting, I'm wrapping, we're chatting, and I said, "You know, I've always wanted to do a saddle of venison." Explained what it was, and dang if they're didn't give me one.

Even managed to come up with a larding needle, and proper kidney fat to lard and bard it.

I've made venison pate.

They smoked a haunch, somewhat too much so it was a little dried out. So I diced it fine, sauteed mushrooms and shallots, made a white sauce, and rolled it in crepes. Yummy!

Jam Lady

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 2571
Location: New Jersey, USA

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 10:26 pm Post subject:
Of course, maybe we don't need a gun. We're tough in New Jersey, even our moggies - https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5067912.stm

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46233
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 10:30 pm Post subject:
greys are very tasty spelling was never a strong point for me mr jefrson was a sound geezer with histry in urop as well as in merica

yummersetter

Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 10 11:18 pm Post subject:
some of us get hungry just reading, Jam Lady

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 12:00 am Post subject:

Squirrel is still eaten quite regularly by many Vermonters still. Well many of the old Vermont families, not so much the flatlanders.

I think it's fairly common for North American mammals to be considered more aggressive & invasive when introduced to Europe. I remember when I lived in Norway, hearing that Canadian beavers had been imported to revive the ailing numbers of the original population and they quickly forced them out.

OP

Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 8:40 am Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

Just for information, a 'sabot' is a sort of case in which a projectile narrower than the bore of the weapon is held, and which falls away after the projectile has exited the barrel. For example, one might fire a .224" projectile from a .308" rifle by putting the .224" in a sabot and then loading the whole into a .308 Win cartridge.

The same principle is used to fire an anti-tank 'kinetic penetrator' from a large-bore artillery piece or tank gun. On the far right of the image below, the sabot segments can be seen falling away from an anti-tank munition, with the kinetic dart visible between the sabot parts:

Isn't hunting bears in a tank a bit un-sporting?

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 9:17 am Post subject:

Slim wrote:

I think it's fairly common for North American's to be considered more aggressive & invasive when introduced to Europe.

I've heard that's the case wherever they are.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 9:46 am Post subject:

sgt.colon wrote:

Slim wrote:

I think it's fairly common for North American's to be considered more aggressive & invasive when introduced to Europe.

I've heard that's the case wherever they are.

But they bring Freedom, Democracy and Hamburgers. It's got to be worth the inconvenience for Freedom, Democracy and Hamburgers.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 9:47 am Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

sgt.colon wrote:

Slim wrote:

I think it's fairly common for North American's to be considered more aggressive & invasive when introduced to Europe.

I've heard that's the case wherever they are.

But they bring Freedom, Democracy and Hamburgers. It's got to be worth the inconvenience for Freedom, Democracy and Hamburgers.

Well as long as they bring freedom fries with those hamburgers, then all is well.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6612
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 10:47 am Post subject:

sgt.colon wrote:

Slim wrote:

I think it's fairly common for North American's to be considered more aggressive & invasive when introduced to Europe.

I've heard that's the case wherever they are.

Ah yes, but we can't take all that credit, we learned from the original imperialists

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 11:10 am Post subject:

Slim wrote:

Ah yes, but we can't take all that credit, we learned from the original imperialists

You ARE the original imperialists. So many of the people with get-up-and-go left Britain for the colonies that the inferior genetic material that remained now bimbles about the world buying Mercedes for dictators, whining about human rights for the scum of the earth, and cuddling foxes. The descendants of British Imperialists who formed the USA get on with the manly stuff of bombing foreigners and getting rich.

matt_hooks

Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 10 12:53 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

Slim wrote:

Ah yes, but we can't take all that credit, we learned from the original imperialists

the inferior genetic material that remained

Present company excepted of course!

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