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2steps



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just bury them. Though I did read recently that you aren't suppst to bury pets in your garden

Bugs



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've not heard anything new on pet burials, did you see if that was a new thing, 2steps?

However, chickens are livestock, and therefore, since about 2 yrs ago, supposed to be disposed of by somewhere that will provide a proper incinerator.

How likely it is that the thousands of backyard keepers across the country are doing this with their "fallen stock" , I don't know. But you should be aware of it - we have not yet decided what will happen to ours. They're in good health, and could easily still be with us in 10 years time and who knows how things will be then

I see Omlet who make the, erm, modern chicken houses, still recommend the dustbin as an option. Nice.

sean
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bit harsh, they have using the vet as first choice. And mention burial.

sean
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sorry if this seems mean, but at the end of the day it's a chicken and it's dead. Unless it's illegal what's the problem with the bin, they're biodegradable?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sean wrote:
Bit harsh, they have using the vet as first choice. And mention burial.


Not harsh at all as they shouldn't recommend something that is illegal, not without telling people at least.

As far as I can see, if you prep your dead hen ready for the table you can then bin it - and if you live round here put the rubbish out the night before and watch the foxes spread it all over the road. Another daft bit of legislation.

2steps



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't think could just throw a pet in the bin. Not cruel, after all they are dead but doesn't seem right

In the case of a chicken as long it wasn't ill I can see any problem in throwing in the bin though, from a legal point of view. Plenty of leftover chicken and carcasses are throw away everyday from food so whats the difference?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 05 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

As far as DEFRA is concerned a pet hen is livestock and can only be disposed in a few ways. I assume the law is to stop large amounts of fallen stock polluting the water supplies etc. I've not heard of a back garden hen keeper ever get into trouble though.

Rachel



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 05 6:00 pm    Post subject: naming chickens Reply with quote
    

Mine are called daphne , Gloria and Hilda. It's unlikely that they will be eaten when they stop laying so I guess they will have to be disposed of in one way or another...not until they stop being really good waste disposal units though! My Dad has been keeping chickens for decades and he is well up on the DEFRA policies (which he despises) and tends to sneak his dead hens into the dustbin!!!! However, I think the 'inform the authorities & pay for incineration' clause applies to all smallholders unfortunately.

dave d



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 05 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

hi all if i ever get a chicken die on me i usually burn it in the field where it lived seems cleaner somehow

kiwi



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 05 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hi

our hens are called Ginger, Merry, Pippin and the week old turkey chicks are Trudy and Tim !!
the pigs are Ruby, Reggie and Jet.
Ducks are Jack , Vera, Matt,Dolly(couldn't resist!) and Lizzie
Puppy is Sam
Cat is Maisie
Pony is Beau
Rabbit is Harvey

we've got a dozen fertile eggs arriving tonight so will need more names I might have to make some plaques so I can remember them all!!

2steps



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 05 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

we decided to name 2 and leave 2 nameless (for eating) they are called marjory and meg. will also need some new names when my eggs hatch

Also have
a dog called chino,
rabbits called amethyst and poppy
rats called fred and shaggy (with 2 more arriving this week)
giant snails called winky and clifford

Mrs Fiddlesticks



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 05 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

our hens are Queenie, Chutney and Ruby Fiddlesticks... ( Queenie was boss hen - although she's been deposed, and I was making courgette chutney when we got them and Ruby cos they are a lovely auburn red colour)

Andy B



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 05 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ive got two new dorkings, and while the rest of the girls have names, nothing seems to have fitted these two yet. Although double and trouble would fit .

mandycharlie



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 05 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

When we first had hens, we (as parents) decided not to name them... although our boys had other ideas.. henrietta,, peggy and princess layer.. were bantered around... but we stayed firm in our choice not to name them.. so now its... the big black rock,, the smaller black rock or the other one... then followed by the breed name... light sussex, buff sussex, orpington etc, etc,

Its not perfect but it works for us..

We had a light sussex that died on us, it just so happened on the day that we went to the Royal Show at Stoneleigh. We came back and she was stone cold, we were quite upset,, hubby the more so, because she was his favourite hen... (they had quite a strong connection)

What to do... well,, we don't have anywhere to dig up to dispose of dead livestock... it was a sunday,, so vets were closed and as I don't drive, would have been difficult to get the hen to the vets monday morning,, not least cause I was not available for the next three days due to other commitments. So, regretably she was taken to the tip.

There was nothing more we could do for her, the other hens looked fine and with the benefit of hind sight were/are in perfect condition, if this happened today, I might have other ideas,,, Like taking said chicken to the vets for analysis... but at that point,, chicken flu was not something that we thought about.. Also this chicken had been feeding and very lively that morning,, (hubby likes to watch them come out to feed) and was stone cold dead some six hours later...

It was very sad, but quickly dealt with. (although they may not have names our boys are quite close to our hens and love them) Is it illegal then to do what we did?

judith



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 05 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mandycharlie wrote:
princess layer



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