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Longshoreman

Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 8:18 am Post subject: Flotsum or jetsum
Wasn't sure whether this should go in foragering or fishing, but what is the legal difference between the two?

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 8:29 am Post subject:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotsam_and_jetsam I know there is a page somewhere that sets out the practical implications for beachcombers, but I cna't find it right now

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 8:43 am Post subject:
Actually, this would make a great topic for an article- something that just sets out simply the legal do's and don'ts of foraging (in the broadest sense) on the shoreline. I know bits of it have been touched on elsewhere in discussions on shellfish- do we have anyone with any expertise in that area who could help pull it together?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 9:06 am Post subject:
Good idea Sally, wonder if any of our members could put something together for us.

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
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Location: South Kent

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 9:16 am Post subject:

Welcome to the site Longshoreman!

I think there is in practice a very significant difference between small-scale personal beachcombing and any significant commercial operation, or disturbance of historical artifacts.

I doubt that anyone is going to become exercised about you taking home an empty beer crate that you fished out of the sea.
On the other hand, I doubt that you have any legal claim whatsoever to ownership of a containerload of Whisky that you were the first to spot washed up on your local beach...

Officially, ALL wreck material which comes from UK territorial waters, and any wreck which is landed in the UK from outside UK territorial waters must by law (Section 236 of the Merchant Shipping Act 1995) be declared to the Receiver of Wreck.

Wreck is defined as anything which is found in or on the sea, or washed ashore from tidal water. All items which are raised, regardless of age or importance, must be reported to the Receiver of Wreck.

There's more here:
https://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-environmental/mcga-dops_row_receiver_of_wreck/mcga-dops_row_law.htm

EDIT: See also the page on "Salvage" on the same site.
Note that "salvage" in this context means the rescuers' claim for reward for recovering/saving someone else's property.

Last edited by dougal on Wed Sep 21, 05 9:34 am; edited 1 time in total

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 9:22 am Post subject:
Probably unrelated but on last week's Antiques Roadshow there was a woman with a huge lump of carved wood she'd found on the beach. Expert said it was I think 17c, could be from a ship but was more likely from a house and had got washed down river - looked like panelling or a bedstead. It was worth about �500-ish and they didn't mention either way whether she should have kept it or not.

Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 12:58 pm Post subject:
Thanks folks that's really interesting and good links too. Can't seem to log on now though Any techies here, I know nowt about computers Thanks Longshoreman

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 05 3:58 pm Post subject:

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks folks that's really interesting and good links too.
Can't seem to log on now though

Any techies here, I know nowt about computers

Thanks

Longshoreman

I'm not very technically minded myself, but have you tried logging out and logging in again, or maybe check your password? If that fails, maybe a post to the 'site guidelines' bit of the forum explaining what seems to be glitching will get some more technical advice.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 05 8:48 pm Post subject:
thats no very traditional me hansome

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