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Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 11 12:51 pm Post subject:
I have on occasion refused to work for landowners who wanted me to institute a bloodbath of wildlife. You should never take life without good cause.

cassy

Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Posts: 1047
Location: South West Scotland

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 11 1:03 pm Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

I have on occasion refused to work for landowners who wanted me to institute a bloodbath of wildlife. You should never take life without good cause.

I'm hoping this bloke has the same attitude and if not that we find one who does.

hots

Joined: 23 Sep 2010
Posts: 397
Location: Suffolk

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 11 1:49 pm Post subject:

We have a chap who shoots our roe deer.

He has many years experience, he spends a long time making sure that he gets a clear shot, he uses the right sort of gun (don't ask what calibre it is, I can't remember, but it is definitely a deershooter), he also ensures that if the bullet goes through the deer it is not going to carry on and hit something behind the beast. This is an issue here as the land is flat.
He is aware of the breeding seasons of each type of deer, therefore he knows when and what he should or shouldn't be shooting.
He guts the deer as soon as he has shot them, he brings me the warm liver for my menfolk.
He takes the carcases away and a few weeks later he returns with the venison perfectly butchered and packaged up for us.
For each 3 deer he shoots we get one back, freezer ready.
We are a little spoilt.
Oh, and he's a really nice bloke.

SheepShed

Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 11 2:33 pm Post subject:

Hots wrote:

he brings me the warm liver for my menfolk

My imagination is running wild at the mental picture that conjures up

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46246
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 11 5:18 pm Post subject:
what a splendid thread

matt_hooks

Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 11 5:30 pm Post subject:

As BB says, if for ANY REASON you have reason to doubt the person, then politely decline to give them permission. There are enough good people out there who will happily come and cull the required number that you don't need to take any c##p off anyone. You have a valuable resource, which you owe to yourself to dispose of in the most beneficial manner possible.

If I were nearer I'd offer my services.

As a guide, a red dear sells in the skin to a game dealer at about �1.30 a kg, depending on how well it's shot. Bear that in mind when agreeing who gets to keep what of the meat.

I know some land owners who will happily let you walk off with the entire carcass, but when I stalk I always offer to split the meat half and half with the land owner at least, and that's the meat butchered as they want it, ready to go in the freezer or pot. I take great pride in dealing with the whole process, from shooting right through to cooking (and eating of course!) and anyone who wants to shoot the dear for you should probably be able to say the same.

djoptix

Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 44

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 11 3:16 pm Post subject:

matt_hooks wrote:

As a guide, a red dear sells at about �1.30 a kg

How much could I get if I shot an old dear...?

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 11 3:48 pm Post subject:

djoptix wrote:

How much could I get if I shot an old dear...?

With the slack courts about 20 hours community service. So it does not infringe on you rights.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46246
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 11 8:29 pm Post subject:

deer are splendid but can be destructive and tasty if needs be

met one white and 8 brown early one morning ,no violence a pretty time in a sussex field

stalked some reds in a blizzard over 2 miles of mountains and surprised them by saying hello inside the herd when they lay down for a rest ,no violence but the way they jumped up and ran was very funny ,if i had been feeling nasty it could have been done with a blade when i was next to the big lad

i like deer .bbq fillet is very nice

i like deer as critters

mostly as critters

im not sure how ki feels about deer

djoptix

Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 44

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 11 9:15 pm Post subject:
BB, please change your avatar back, the old one was sweet but the new one is just wrong diddly wrong wrong.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 11 9:18 pm Post subject:

djoptix wrote:

BB, please change your avatar back, the old one was sweet but the new one is just wrong diddly wrong wrong.

Problem, Dave? You need Cloooothespegs?

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46246
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 11 9:30 pm Post subject:
the new one is cute back to the plot if they are eating the trees it may work to repel them with scent .human ,lion works .dog the lion thing comes from napoleon and josephine who dumped for surrey to keep deer off blackheath gardens .bagged rather than a visit if it keeps roses and strawberries safe .......

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 11 2:09 pm Post subject:
I like deer....but wouldnt want them on my land.... If you dont know the person, but he has contacted you through a 3rd person, cant you get some info from them on his 'method/ideology'?

cassy

Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Posts: 1047
Location: South West Scotland

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 11 6:23 pm Post subject:

A quick update -

We've still not had any significant damage here (nearly 2 months later) and so I'm not inclined to take any action.

The person in question didn't get in touch in the end, but I was grateful for the advice I got here at the time, as I felt more confident had they got in touch.

The deer seem more nervous around people now and take themselves off much quicker than they used to. We don't see them as much as we used to, perhaps once a week now.

Red deer are now out of season according to here so that takes any decision out of my hands for a while anyway.

Thanks all!

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 25795
Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 11 6:47 pm Post subject:

I've got a problem with Roe deer and, from what I've observed, they seem to like browsing on young foliage so the damage tends to occur in spring/early summer. Hopefully you'll still escape the damage but I'd keep a good eye out just in case so you know what might need to be done later in the season.

I've got a few examples of ash trees that have been bonsaied by the deer, the trees are still just a couple of feet high and the trunks about one cm in diameter - their neighbours that escaped the damage are well over 5m tall and their trunks15 - 20cm.

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