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Rusticwood

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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:39 am Post subject:
Do the local education people have woodworking evening classes? If so could you go to learn then teach your son? Or have you a friend or relative near who could help?

Midland Spinner

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Location: Under a green roof

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:49 am Post subject:
Great list of links Brownbear, is there any chance we could make that list a sticky or an article?

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
Posts: 379
Location: Kent coast

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:49 am Post subject:

Midland Spinner wrote:

OH says "make a box rather than a trestle - it will give your son somewhere to store the tools"

oh that is so sweet of him thankyou!

that would be such a fab first project, and seeing the order of construction like that means I can visualise it and plan whats needed ta x

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Location: Kent coast

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:50 am Post subject:
brownbear I think i love you xxx will def check out all those links, how wonderful...tools are really hard to buy when you know nuffin, I want to get decent but not showy, just good quality so thankyou very much for the specific suggestions I will def be following them up!

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Location: Kent coast

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:53 am Post subject:

Rusticwood wrote:

Do the local education people have woodworking evening classes?
If so could you go to learn then teach your son?
Or have you a friend or relative near who could help?

sadly local evening classes seem to have gone downhill...and I have no childcare in the evenings. I did go to a 'power tools for women' type lcass once

but it just served to confirm my terror of them

he will be on his own if he wants t try that further down the line

only relative in the country is my brother who may well be helpful, I should be braver and ask him really, he would prob enjoy it but is a bit shy sometimes about doing 'stuff'

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Location: Kent coast

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:55 am Post subject:

Midland Spinner wrote:

Great list of links Brownbear, is there any chance we could make that list a sticky or an article?

I second that!

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46384
Location: yes

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 4:48 pm Post subject:
me as well a brace has good torque and if you need to make a hole 5mm or above will be much better for a young un i was using both at about his age and the brace n bit is a good tool for making all manner of holes in wood ,and is easy to use ,start off strait and the bit will stay strait the brace will make big holes as well as little ones but a whisk drill will only make small ones

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
Posts: 379
Location: Kent coast

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 11 4:12 pm Post subject:
my bro took me to b&q yesterday and helped me choose their cheapie workbench (which looks pretty good), a mitre saw kit and a basic hammer, and said the rest of their stuff is overpriced tat and to look for hand drill etc in independent local place so far so good (also told him about safety knife for ds)

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
Posts: 379
Location: Kent coast

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 5:46 pm Post subject:

Well I ordered the hand drill locally and bought a few odds and sods, and set it all up in our 'craft room' wot was the dining room

and hid it under a blanket til his birthday

he seemed pleased, so far has done some nail bashing and bro has shown him (and me:oops: ) how to use saw...

Hes made a lacing toy for his sister by measuring and drilling holes in some cast off wood and adding a shoe lace. Also a sign for model railway which he thought of himself. And today we made his dad a little box with balsa wood and pins. Not a pretty sight tbh, but I am v proud and a bit sad it's not for me! He also has some odd plans involving garden canes which I decided it best to only half listen to as it sounded a bit unrealistic to me, but what do mothers know!

Thanks for all suggestions and encouragement x

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Location: Kent coast

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 5:47 pm Post subject:
Oh and j didn't buy a toolbox as hoping to make one as above!

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 6:06 pm Post subject:
proper toolbox is good not complicated make the basic box and lid ,add details like draws ,jar racks ,tool slots etc etc it is worth making a decent size box ,they fill quickly and a 30 inch cross cut saw needs a place to sit in the lid in a slot with a turn toggle to hold it in place making and filling a carpenter's box is the way to learn many skills

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Location: Kent coast

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 6:15 pm Post subject:
Gosh you make it sound so straightforward but if boy and I ever manage that I will never need to achieve anything else in life! Of course, usual modern problem of no one with relevant skills about to guide us. However, we have progressed from bashing, to drilling, to ugly (lidless!) box, so the world is our wooden oyster!

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 6:27 pm Post subject:
if you know it is ugly and would improve on that early lesson you are both well on the way to honourable tradesfolk is it likely that tom chippendale looked at his first box and thought "the next one will be better"? plan and make a cutting list ,cut and fix for the next development wood can be reused

naomij

Joined: 03 Mar 2011
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Location: Kent coast

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 6:36 pm Post subject:

Thankyou for your wise words!

I taught myself to knit and sew from books, and after years of frustration am amazed to find myself, 10 years on, confident that of clothes shops suddenly ceased to exist it would be a cause got celebration rather than concern

and the advantage to learning the long hard way was that I learnt not just what to do, but how things actually work, and needn't depend on others designs etc. It seems this may be a good mindset for woodwork, so I shall keep our projects realistic

and look forward to what we might achieve in the next 10 years!

Am pleased to think knitting is applicable to woodwork !

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 11 6:42 pm Post subject:

making things is very simple

by trying one gets the skills first time or by keeping trying to get it right

learning to plan and then working to that plan is best until the plan fails and a new way is needed

tool up and make stuff folks

i have 100gm of bullion silver and 50 gm of mixed colour 9 ct gold in 2 gm lumps that i want to make into makume gane or maybe landscape metal, .i only get one go at that .then i have to make it into something special by beating and or cutting and welding .it has been a while since i played with sparking metal recon it will be a retreat with a hammer and several sorts of flame

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