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Bulgarianlily
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 1667 Location: South West Mountains of Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 10 5:49 am Post subject: The three month rule |
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I don't know which countries in Europe apply the 'three month rule' for residency and which don't. Here in Bulgaria according to EU law, you can stay for three months in any six month period, i.e. 90 days out of 180 days. After that you are regarded as living in the country and you have to register and produce evidence of various things. This basically is to prove that you can support yourself, that you have somewhere to live and will not be a burden on the health care system. A bank account with money in it, or proof of a job or pension, proof that you have an address and some kind of health insurance is therefore needed. Then you can get your long stay card and after five years of living here you can then apply for permanent residency. Citizenship is a different matter, requiring a language exam and in our case the giving up of previous citizenship.
If you overstay your three month period you can be deported. I assume from what I have read that in the case of the Roma in France, the grounds on which they legally can deport is simply some evidence that the people concerned have been there over three months without registering, (difficult to do obviously if you are living in a shanty town with no job or bank account). However perfectly legal given EU law. People in the UK often have the perception that the 'freedom of movement' under EU law means you can live anywhere you choose for as long as you like within the EU boundaries but that is not the case. A great many Brits seem to be living in Bulgaria illegally having not bothered to register here, and from what I have been told are very indignant when the police come to call and tell them to get this sorted! However in the UK I understand that the law applied is that you gain residence from the moment you arrive if you have an address, and if your intent is to remain in the country.
So there are two things I am wondering about.
If my understanding is correct, is it immoral for an EU country to deport anyone that doesn't match this rule, i.e. overstays without means of support?
And why doesn't the UK use the same rule book? |
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Brownbear
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 14929 Location: South West
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 10 6:05 am Post subject: Re: The three month rule |
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Bulgarianlily wrote: |
And why doesn't the UK use the same rule book? |
Firstly, the border control is completely incompetent, nobody has any idea who comes in, who leaves, anything.
Secondly, Blair and co had a policy of unrestricted immigration. He claimed it would stimulate the economy, I would contend it was to ensure that Britain continued as a low-wage economy for the benefit of all those large corporate donors.
Thirdly, anyone who questions uncontrolled immigration is a racist, Little Englander, Daily Mail reader. Everybody knows that. |
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Bulgarianlily
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