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Tavascarow

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 12:11 pm Post subject:

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Mistress Rose wrote:

I wouldn't put in willow as it will sucker everywhere and you will end up with a thicket.

It depends on what you want. Hawthorn is generally regarded as being a reliable hedge and is quite quick growing; hence its alternative name of quickthorn.

If you want something less prickly, hazel is good as it can be laid once it has grown to a suitable size, beech will retain its leaves as already posted, hornbeam, or a mixture.

Willow doesn't sucker.
If it is left to grow it will make a moderate tree or if coppiced will form a stool of new shoots but it doesn't spread.

Nicky cigreen

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 12:40 pm Post subject:
willow is a good choice - either the kind they use to weave with - or goat willow you could put some bay in too - but tall and evergreen and useful.

madcat

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 2:49 pm Post subject:

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we did away with an overgrown conifer hedge and left the stumps in ,they don't regrow. Boris piled masses of his homemade compost on the top of the soil between the stumps and we are busy planting small holly and bay and yew seedlings into a new hedge.These are free because they self set in the garden.So far so good but slow because we are just using what we find as self sets in the rest of the garden.

dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 3:47 pm Post subject:
sorry to be grumpy but get a pro to drop a big tree those snaps look really random and dangeroos leylandii take a trunk trimming to get light into the under shadow by removing the lower side branches of big uns starlings really like em the droppings are ace in a compost heap etc all done and no body was killed please never use a rope like that

dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 3:48 pm Post subject:
really just dont

dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 4:01 pm Post subject:

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caring not criticizing

ive got papers for dropping trees ,there is a reason why one should do it in the right way

i did lots before i got pro training and know how lucky i have been ,tis scary dangeroos when you see one behave badly

a pro would have dropped and snedded that in ten mins .logged in ten .you sort the brash etc

would that have been safer and easier ?

be careful folk ,i want no body to get hurt

dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 4:16 pm Post subject:
with a ground man doing belay and one up the hedge ones could be trimmed behind ,halved. and the bottom bit taken down to a pullable stump fairly easily and safely by the look but on site conditions trump all diy is fine but be sensible with stuff that kills folk sorry to be a spoiler ,sermon over

dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 4:17 pm Post subject:
it aint a hedge

dpack

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 4:34 pm Post subject:

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i did my first as a kid .poplar 30m +tall and 5 m from house.i did airial dismantling which is a bit pre regulations but it taught me respect for the dangers of such work
.im still alive ,having dropped a lot since i know some of the mistakes and surprises

please be careful with very big things that can kill you ,my last near miss industrial mistake was horrid ,uuugh .we should have got the crane first ,not to pick up the thing that nearly squashed us later

if that had been only slightly worse we would have died rather than just been a bit horrified

i dont want any one to wear a portacabin or a tree

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 6:17 pm Post subject:

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Tavascarow wrote:

Mistress Rose wrote:

I wouldn't put in willow as it will sucker everywhere and you will end up with a thicket.

It depends on what you want. Hawthorn is generally regarded as being a reliable hedge and is quite quick growing; hence its alternative name of quickthorn.

If you want something less prickly, hazel is good as it can be laid once it has grown to a suitable size, beech will retain its leaves as already posted, hornbeam, or a mixture.

Willow doesn't sucker.
If it is left to grow it will make a moderate tree or if coppiced will form a stool of new shoots but it doesn't spread.

I know goat willow spreads, and it's well known for it. It seems to self layer and a single stem forms a multi-rooted bush in a couple of years. I don't know if any other willows do it but some are very keen to root so it wouldn't surprise me.

Nicky cigreen

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 12 7:17 pm Post subject:
Goat willow seems to self seed too - i know cos we have some tree sized weeds in the flower border. Personally i would rather fight successful plants then try to encourage weak plants,but each to their own

tai haku

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 12 8:53 am Post subject:

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Marches wrote:

I'd personally plant Holly or Hornbeam.

late to this but I'll add my twopenneth in case anyone else comes across this thread when planting - If you're going for a single species hedge I'd agree with Marches (although holly is right expensive if you're doing a lot).

Personally our hedges are a mix of a whole array of different species (at one stage it was over 50 but we lost a few here and there) but my favourite is an old hawthorn hedge which grew into "a line of trees" and which we pruned brutally and then interplanted with hazel and the odd spindle (and which has one monster crab apple sticking out the top of it). I'd totally recommend hazel but it's a bit of a shaggy dog.

The other idea I quite like the thought of is a mixed beech and hornbean for a more formal clipped hedge.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 12 9:55 am Post subject:

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Gawber wrote:

Sadly, Leylandii seem to be the hedge of choice in the few new houses that are built here - you can already see them as a potential problem for many.

They make a great hedge provided that you trim them at least twice per year.
Is a kind of job creation.

Back to OP, I wouldn't bother removing the stumps. Just plant between them.
The soil will be depleted and acidic though. You will need to address that.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 12 9:59 am Post subject:

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FOD1 wrote:

Blimey - yours was worse than ours - nightmare. I was surprised how weedy the petrol chipper we hired was - not really man-enough for the job but I couldn't hire a proper big one without the attached tree surgeon and his invoice.

HSS do one.
Wherever you hire from, make suee the blades are sharp. Last one I hired was more like a hammer mill.
I got my own now though.

Shan

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 12 11:21 am Post subject:
Hazel is brilliant as hedging and excellent for coppicing.

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