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Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 12 9:46 pm Post subject: Video tour of a large meat packing plant (USA)
This just turned up on facebook, I thought some people might be interested; With Temple Grandin [Warning; video contains images of cattle slaughter]

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 2:44 pm Post subject:
Thanks Rob, Notice she mentioned the other videos of slaughter houses floating around the intertnet,shame she did`nt also mention that them videos were of Kosha slaughter houses,not conventional.

Piggyphile

Joined: 02 Apr 2009
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Location: Galicia

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 5:50 pm Post subject:
Strange that her Autism is said to make her more understanding of animals behaviour. It is good to see an autistic person succeeding in a high profile position but I thought Autism made people have difficulty in relating to others which would surely include animals as well as people?

toggle

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 6:01 pm Post subject:
not necessarily.

Piggyphile

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Location: Galicia

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 6:15 pm Post subject:
I can see that a person with autism might find animal behaviour more 'straight forward' as it is less complicated than people and so might prefer their company but why that person would be better with animals that a person without autism is unclear to me. I say this as the parent of a son with Aspergers who has difficulties with relationships of all kinds.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 8:25 pm Post subject:
Perhaps it is best to think of her not as an autistic person that is good with animals, rather a person who is good with animals and happens to be autistic? Afterall it isn't a common correlation amongst autistic people.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 8:27 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Thanks Rob,
Notice she mentioned the other videos of slaughter houses floating around the intertnet,shame she did`nt also mention that them videos were of Kosha slaughter houses,not conventional.

I'm pretty sure there are a good few examples of conventional abattoirs being the subject of abuse and poor handling. Cheale certainly was.

toggle

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 11622
Location: truro

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 8:46 pm Post subject:

Piggyphile wrote:

I can see that a person with autism might find animal behaviour more 'straight forward' as it is less complicated than people and so might prefer their company but why that person would be better with animals that a person without autism is unclear to me. I say this as the parent of a son with Aspergers who has difficulties with relationships of all kinds.

i had a quick look, finding animals easier to cope with than people is a common trait along the autistic spectrum.

eg. some organisations working with non verbal autistic children use contact with animals, eg horseriding as a theraputic exercise

anecdotally, pilgrim is obsessed with cats.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 12 9:04 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Thanks Rob,
Notice she mentioned the other videos of slaughter houses floating around the intertnet,shame she did`nt also mention that them videos were of Kosha slaughter houses,not conventional.

I'm pretty sure there are a good few examples of conventional abattoirs being the subject of abuse and poor handling. Cheale certainly was.

I agree,i was commenting on the American aspect of the video.

Pilgrim1975

Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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Location: Here And There

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 12 11:28 am Post subject:

toggle wrote:

anecdotally, pilgrim is obsessed with cats.

Well, they seem obsessed with me, to be fair. I can't go anywhere without at least one member of the local feline community opting to take a break from whatever vitally important moggie business they're currently engaged in (which usually seems to involve sleeping, eating, preening or all three) and deciding that I'm going to be crushed beneath their iron paw.

Mithril

Joined: 22 Jul 2011
Posts: 1755
Location: wessex

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 12 11:50 am Post subject:
I would say, in my experience anyway, that a lot of the horsey type girls I know (myself and my eldest included) are on the spectrum (Aspergers). Great with horses - people not so much.

Melli-Jane

Joined: 09 Mar 2011
Posts: 272
Location: East Sussex

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 12 1:49 pm Post subject:

Temple Grandin helped design the abbatoir at Laverstoke Park - I visited it in the summer with our farm training group and whilst they had stopped killing due to an electrical fault that was being fixed in front of us, the lairage was light and airy and the pigs were totally chilled out whilst they waited their fate which is more than I can say for the dingy lairages at our local abbatoir, she is clearly a very insightful lady and its a shame that more processors don't follow suit.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 12 1:55 pm Post subject:

An awful lot of Temple Grandin's insights are just commonsense IMHO, but an awful lot of people don't seem to think what it is like for the animal so things tend to be set out for the people. Our local lairage is nothing fancy, light & airy but the stock move well through it, which always make me feel inadequate about our own setup.

We know what the problems are, but the usual obstacles means it's not perfect, yet.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 12 1:58 pm Post subject:
her written works both academic and more general are fascinating reading a good teacher of behavior in humans and other species on my recommended reading list

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