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Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 2584

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 05 3:05 pm Post subject:

According to Katie Thear:

"Wing clipping should not be confused with pinioning, where newly hatched waterfowl have the tip of the wing (known as the bastard wing) cut off. The latter causes permanent disfiguration to the wing structure, and is not recommended."

I thought I had read somewhere more recently than when this book was published (1980), that pinioning was actually illegal, but I may be wrong on that.

I have only wing clipped, and only had problems with them flying when I forgot to keep up with it, so that's my lookout.

beth

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 52
Location: Milton, Cambridge

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 05 10:13 pm Post subject:

Escape from "Stalag luft Milton" episode 2 continues with our intrepid inmates taking turns to attempt to fly to fame and errrm the other thing.

So Paul checks on the ducks this afternoon and sits nearby for a bit of communing, as you do. Where upon Jemima flaps her wings and lifts off gaining about 3 to 4foot of height before contacting the wire fencing. Crash and burn isn't quite the appropriate phrase. Actually she landed all right with hardly a feather out of place. Since it was late afternoon he tucked them up. Another escapee rescue session wouldn't have been welcome. So when I got home this evening we clipped one of Jemima's wings.

Apparently they have eaten a little bit of their layers pellets but not much.
Concerned.
Beth

DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 110
Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 05 12:55 am Post subject:
to pinion a bird is not illegal.

Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 05 8:10 am Post subject:
Thanks for clarifying that; don't know where I picked that up from.

beth

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 52
Location: Milton, Cambridge

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 9:58 pm Post subject:

So, time for an update.

They have been eating for about 3 days now. Not a great deal, like it says in Katie thear's book. But enough to make me breath a sigh of relief.

We've also had no more escapology excersises.

And the comment that ducks dont put themselves to bed. I think we must have that strange breed of chickens called ducks. Cos they have put themselves to bed one afternoon. And most of the time they are ready to go in and mearly want a little encouragement. Maybe there house is too comfortable or something

Beth

alison
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 12918
Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 10:23 pm Post subject:
ours always wait at their door to go away too.

beth

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 52
Location: Milton, Cambridge

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 10:39 am Post subject:
So the ducks are eating about 1+1/2 mugs of layers pellets a day, no eggs yet. But as soon as I let them out they go to their bath for a wash, and then Rebeccah proceeds to jump on Jemima and do sex. A lot. I'd expect it Rebeccah was a drake, but she isn't. Wrong colour for a drake, no curly tail feathers either. But she is the bigger of the two. Is that normal for ducks? Ta, Beth

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45674
Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 10:47 am Post subject:
Dunno but look at this:

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 11:02 am Post subject:
Perhaps I'm being really dippy...but I thought ducks needed a Mr Duck to lay eggs. Or something like that. I do like those stamps. Prices go up in April, perhaps a good time to stock up!

alison
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 11:03 am Post subject:
no male needed to lay eggs.

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 11:06 am Post subject:
Hmm..wonder where I got that from then.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45674
Location: Essex

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 11:07 am Post subject:
It's like all ladies, they keep producing eggs, it's just a matter of fertilisation.

beth

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 52
Location: Milton, Cambridge

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 05 11:23 am Post subject:
Indeed. We dont want fertile eggs. We dont have the room, time or facilities to hatch any. I just want them to lay me some eggs! Just surprising me how much Rebeccah is picking on Jemima, I expected the usual pecking order posturing, but it seems a bit beyond that. Beth

beth

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 52
Location: Milton, Cambridge

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 05 10:15 am Post subject:
Quack quack!! Found an egg in their house this morning when I let them out. Beth

Bugs

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 10744

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 05 10:23 am Post subject:
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