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alison
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 05 10:05 pm Post subject:
Cab Keep it in the airing cupboard for the whole month , or just to start with?

cab

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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 05 10:56 pm Post subject:
Wrap it in an old towel or blanket and bung it in the airing cupboard, and forget about it. It'll be fine. Test it when you remember. If you haven't got the airing cupboard space, leave it wrapped in the towel anywhere convenient. It'll cure, it might take longer, but it'll still cure. The only way I can think of that it can be cocked up at that stage would be if it got wet.

alison
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 05 8:56 pm Post subject:
Thanks Cab

wellington womble

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 4:27 pm Post subject:

Chopped up the shampoo bars today, and am not really impressed. Still a bit on the sticky side, and a greeny yellow. Doesn't look appetizing, or smell nearly so lemony. I do know why now, though. I halved the recipe, but forgot and put the full amount of egg yolk in - presumably this is why it's a bit gungy. Hope there is enough preservative!

Had a much better result with the castille soap I made yesterday, much easier to get the weights accurate in ounces. although the goats milk seemed to go all curdley when I put the caustic soda in, it traced fine, and has now set in a smooth yellowy colour. I have shoved them both on top of the hot water tank, but will keep an eye on the egg and lemon, and chuck it if goes pongy. I've got all the ingredients hanging around in the kitchen anyway, so might give it another go and use it for laundry soap if it makes it!

Thanks Cab, I presume that the essential oils are superfatting it anyway, and was hoping they didn't matter too much. In the castille soap I mixed together a teaspoon of chamomile oil, one of calendula oil and half of jojoba oil, and put two teaspoons of that into the mix. It had better be good with chamomile oil at that price! Next time I think I'll just substitue chamomile tea for the water!

Sarah D

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 6:13 pm Post subject:

I made my first batch of soap this afternoon; I made two small trays to get the measure of it, and I'm very pleased with the way it turned out. I used a recipe from Melinda Coss's book for the basic recipe, coloured it with turmeric and added dried organic cammomile flowers. It's now wrapped in a towel for the first 24 hours, then it's into the airing cupboard.

I can see how soap making can become addictive................

wellington womble

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 6:26 pm Post subject:

Sarah D wrote:

I can see how soap making can become addictive................

It's all those tasty sounding recipes - they sound so tempting! And the idea of being able to laze in the bath with them is just irresistable. When I fist looked at the book, and made a list of the soaps I wanted to make, I realised that I was planning to make about 200 bars of soap! I have been very restrained!

alison
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 8:49 pm Post subject:
I wish I had done it sooner It has been on my to do list for a couple of years, and I had never got around to it. Sarah did you use wood ash or lye in the end.

tahir

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 8:50 pm Post subject:
Wnder what my missus'd say if I told her about soap making

Sarah D

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 9:25 pm Post subject:
I used the caustic soda this time, as I still have to find or make a suitable vessel for passing the water through the wood ash; that's next on the agenda though. I did buy two bottles of the caustic soda, so have plenty to be going on with. I'll tell her if you like, Tahir............

alison
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 9:45 pm Post subject:
I looked like I was about to take a trip on the moon, with my safety specs and gloves on, but I found the caustic soda tobe very easy to use. How is the wood ash method for calculating the saponification.

Sarah D

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 9:50 pm Post subject:
If you can float an egg in the resulting lye, then it is about right. Will definitely be trying it soon, might have to get Mr D on to the task of making/finding suitable said vessel, though. I'm sure there must be something in the shed..........

alison
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 10:02 pm Post subject:
didn't know that about theegg. I am looking forward to hearing how you get on.

wellington womble

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 11:11 pm Post subject:

I wish I'd done it sooner too, but then I always do when things turn out to be straightforward (if you read the recipe's right anyway!) I bet I looked I pretty stupid too (I wore my old ski glasses!) but I think the warnings may be a little over zealous, as I managed to get the traced soap on my t-shirt, and the only effect was to make my arm itch a bit, where it was resting against it, and I hadn't noticed. I washed it with vinegar straightaway, but it must have been there for a good hour before I noticed! Never mind, too much care is always better than not enough (unless of course it was because I did it wrong in the first place

) I wonder how one makes lye out of woodash then, lots of woodash in our woodburner........

cab

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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 05 11:44 pm Post subject:
Of all the chemicals you're ever likely to encounter, sodium hydroxide is one of the nastiest. A little bit of tracing material on your shirt ain't so bad, but a drop of lye solution in your eye and you can be in -serious- trouble. The warnings about being careful with it really are worthwhile!

wellington womble

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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 05 11:30 am Post subject:

You're absolutely right about the caustic soda, and the eyes, cab (and I promise I really was careful with the solution, and I did wear my specs!) But it seems a shame when a few sensible precautions (and a bit of respect for nasty chemicals) will get you through unscathed.

I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't nasty, or that you shouldn't wear gloves or glasses, just that it wasn't as dramatic as I was expecting from what I had read.

It never fails to amaze what people injure themselves on through familiarity breeding contempt. I had a poor toddler patient who had put herself in hospital (and had several skin grafts) because she had badly burnt herself on custard. it was so sad, but custard? Boiling water's got a lot to answer for too, and yet we all use it daily.

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