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jema
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 9:02 am Post subject:
The operator does not start off knowing that option exists, its the first time I have heard of it. I don't expect to have to do a particular click of the mouse on somewhere that has nothing indicated about it and then navigate to find an option which you say changes the way the whole things works. Previous windows were far more discoverable.

oldish chris

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 9:35 am Post subject:

Over in Linuxland, it is assumed that people transferring from a different OS will not find the "intuitive" system particularly intuitive.

There is an on-line manual for installing Ubuntu (https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/installation-guide/en.armhf/) and for the desktop (I use XFCE) there is a wiki (https://wiki.xfce.org/howto).

Amazing what a bunch of enthusiasts can do, and I would have thought that a market leading company would have something far better.

(Unless they don't give a damn said the Troll).

henchard

Joined: 23 Aug 2012
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Location: Carmarthenshire

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 10:07 am Post subject:

Shane wrote:

I think Jema's point is that he just wants it to work from the beginning without having to be set up to be more usable. I've used Windows 8 many times, and it drives me mental. I especially hate the fact that I have to move the cursor sort of to the right somewhere and, if I'm really, really lucky, four random symbols will pop up, one of which will open a screen that will allow me to search for the control panel. It's two clicks away in Windows 7, but requires a miracle and a whole lot of patience to find it in Windows 8. Why should I have to spend half-an-hour on Google and then play around a whole lot to make that process quicker (if it can be made quicker at all)? And that's just one thing that needs sorting out - by the time I've configured it to be easier to use I may as well have written my own operating system.

Harrumph, I say!

Once again I disagree, the control panel can be found in one click in Windows 8.1 (as can Task manager, shut down etc); just right click on the Windows button.

Now I'll agree that Microsoft did 'cock up' trying to make it 'all singing and dancing' in the first place but most of the configuration issues (that mostly annoyed desktop users) were sorted with the 8.1 upgrade.

As I say I'm no fan of Microsoft but Windows 8.1 is a very, very good operating system IMHO. As I say in 8 or 9 months of 24 hour a day use it has been rock solid.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 10:16 am Post subject:

henchard wrote:

As I say in 8 or 9 months of 24 hour a day use it has been rock solid.

It certainly is that.

For those who have problem or issues in using it there are a mass of how to videos on YouTube and other online resources that makes it far more intuitive.

Use Windows 8.1 on a Surface and you'll see why they did what they did.

jema
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 3:52 pm Post subject:
I'm sure if you persevere it is fine, but I can boot up a windows7 machine and do things having not been in windows for months, but if I'm on someone else's windows8 box having been asked to help with something I'm stuffed, in that scenario you can hardly go around altering their settings to make it usable even if you knew how.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 4:20 pm Post subject:
That's why we're getting Windows 10.

RichardW

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 15 9:13 pm Post subject:

vegplot wrote:

That's why we're getting Windows 10.

When & can I down load it once & then apply to all the pc's we have here?

sean
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 15 7:50 pm Post subject:
You can register now. It's going to be free for a limited period apparently.

vegplot

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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 15 8:34 pm Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

vegplot wrote:

That's why we're getting Windows 10.

When & can I down load it once & then apply to all the pc's we have here?

From 29th July I believe.

Bodrighy

Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Location: Near Devizes

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 15 9:09 pm Post subject:
Just got a notification asking me to reserve it and it will automatically download when it is ready. Full upgrade no cost. Pete

RichardW

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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 15 6:09 am Post subject:
We have 4 or 5 devices that will want the upgrade. Is it possible to down load it once then apply to each? If not then when it does become available we wont have any internet left that month & even if we did it would be unusable with all that downloading going on.

vegplot

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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 15 6:20 am Post subject:
I presume it will be made available as a download. You can download it now but as it's the preview version it's unlikely to be stable or complete.

Hairyloon

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 15 8:33 am Post subject:
Does anybody know how Windows 10 copes with multi-boot systems? Does it do what Windows normally does and wipe everything else off? I would assume not, if it is upgrading one Windows to another, but I would rather know before I start...

vegplot

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 15 10:08 am Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

Does anybody know how Windows 10 copes with multi-boot systems?
Does it do what Windows normally does and wipe everything else off?
I would assume not, if it is upgrading one Windows to another, but I would rather know before I start...

Specialist forums are the best place to search.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_install/windows-10-multiboot/306ae43e-efeb-4f99-821a-7714434449e1?auth=1

RichardW

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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 15 4:43 pm Post subject:
I'm a bit peed off with win 10. I dint want to wait for the system to download it when it wanted to due to our limited internet. So I used the download option on the website. However after downloading all 4ish gig of it I now find that its only for a full install with new number & wont upgrade my win 8.1 machine.

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