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Pilsbury

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 5645
Location: East london/Essex

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 15 6:53 am Post subject:
Don't be ridiculous, anyone out doing anything on public land and roads are responsible for their own safety be that climing trees, walking down the street or foraging. Just becausexaomeonectells you where there is an Apple tree doesn't make thst person responsible for your health and safety precautions or what happens while your there....

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 15 6:55 am Post subject:
Don't rise to it. You're feeding the troll.

Pilsbury

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 5645
Location: East london/Essex

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 15 6:58 am Post subject:
Lol well even trolls like to forage sometimes, no harm in a bit of free food every now and again.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15966

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 15 8:47 am Post subject:

I think the book looks good, but it is the map I am concerned about. Perhaps slightly different, but we have had problems with geo-cachers putting up routes through the wood without permission and causing damage. Because they are following a route, or going to a spot, they seem oblivious of everything else around them, so are quite happy to tread on all sorts of other plants to get to what they are aiming for.

I have no problem with people picking blackberries or raspberries in the wood, as long as they don't do any damage, but sadly some do.

Urbane Forager, I think it would be as well to investigate any restrictions on the 'public land' that you are covering, as some areas will have by-laws preventing certain activities. I know for instance, that if I want to arrange a walk for a group in our country park, I have to inform the Park Manager first with approximate numbers, who the group are etc., and as I know some restrictions are placed on foraging fungi, some may have other restrictions too.

Urbane Forager

Joined: 08 Sep 2014
Posts: 5

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 15 8:11 pm Post subject:

Pilsbury wrote:

Don't be ridiculous, anyone out doing anything on public land and roads are responsible for their own safety be that climing trees, walking down the street or foraging.
Just becausexaomeonectells you where there is an Apple tree doesn't make thst person responsible for your health and safety precautions or what happens while your there....

Totally agree, for starters the trees indicated above were nothing to do with me. The map I use is public and free access, anyone can use it.
Secondly I do not put everything I find/know on the map, that would be impossible. I do not put hazel on for instance because it is too common, likewise Elder or blackberries. Nor do Indicate anything that might upset people living nearby. I also don't show my favourite places, simply because I don't want to, and also people need to learn how to look for themselves, if they want.
I do produce cider and country wine, and yes my kids help me. I drink my cider and the kids drink the apple juice which I pasteurise. Nothing wrong with any of that as far as I can see. It is a chemistry/biology lesson

There are lots of walnut and apple trees in Southampton and else where, if you know where to look. Buy the book and you may learn how to locate them

My kids and I gathered over 200 kgs of apples last year all from common ground, none by he airport.
I encourage my kids to climb safely and assess danger in their environment, important lessons as most reasonable people would agree

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 15 9:50 pm Post subject:
There seem`s to be a fair bit of common land near Southampton that has apple tree`s growing on it,Who planted these tree`s on common land,the council possibly?

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 15 9:57 pm Post subject:
Nature?

Pilsbury

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 5645
Location: East london/Essex

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 15 10:22 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

There seem`s to be a fair bit of common land near Southampton that has apple tree`s growing on it,Who planted these tree`s on common land,the council possibly?

if they are near roads it's most likely to be drivers and passengers chucking cores out the window.
I know the A406 and M11 are abundant in Apple trees as well as a few pear

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 15 10:23 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Nature?

That`s a possibility i thought of,but this extent?

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 15 10:28 pm Post subject:

Pilsbury wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

There seem`s to be a fair bit of common land near Southampton that has apple tree`s growing on it,Who planted these tree`s on common land,the council possibly?

if they are near roads it's most likely to be drivers and passengers chucking cores out the window.
I know the A406 and M11 are abundant in Apple trees as well as a few pear

But is that not Highway property ,not common land?

No wonder the same does`nt happen in Wales,the verges get flayled to an inch of their lives.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15966

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 7:17 am Post subject:

Changing the subject slightly, ours did until this year too Ty Gwyn. This year they have left the stuff at the back down our road and there are loads of purple orchids in flower. Sadly they have also left the grass on some roundabouts so you can't see approaching traffic. A bit of common sense might be in order there I think, although husband says that is in short supply where that sort of thing is concerned.

As for apple and other trees, some round here have been planted and some are wildings. One outside our house between us and the main road was planted, but we have at least 1 in the wood that is a wilding. Am keeping an eye on the Mirabelle plum down the road. Currently it is dropping unripe plums, but looking forward to them being ripe. The ones along the main road have been flailed on our side, so no plums, but not sure I would want many from that source anyway.

Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 9:49 am Post subject:

Urbane Forager wrote:

Pilsbury wrote:

There are lots of walnut and apple trees in Southampton and else where, if you know where to look. Buy the book and you may learn how to locate them

Well done for your efforts.

PS Looks like you have discovered two of Downsizer's favourite activities: Nitpicking and playing the 'what if' game where the world comes to an end because someone somewhere might tread on an ant.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 10:04 am Post subject:
Even tho he's done nothing to you? (You'll end up black and blue.)

Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 10:35 am Post subject:
I already am. Tripped over a pallet. Ant got its divine justice.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46207
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 1:25 pm Post subject:

i can see both sides of the debate re the map thing

perhaps the best option is to encourage folk to make their own forage map as they learn what is where and when in their areas.

i have a mental forage calender/map of quite a few places any of which could feed me and probably a few chums.

would a chapter on taking mental and/or written notes of times and places to produce a guide to your own local habitats be a good alternative to directing a lot of folk to a few locations.?

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