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RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 16 9:45 pm Post subject:

MIFI powered via a solar panel / battery?

Do you know how much Open reach charge for a line install?

We got a quote to have one put in. The nearest connection point is 550 metres away. The Gov give them ï¿½3k to put a house online. They wanted ï¿½13k from us to in stall it above ground via poles. I was not sure if that was Plus or inc VAT but either way it was too much.

If we laid the (supplied) pipe they would do it for about ï¿½6k but it had to be in a straight line. Impossible to our location.

Old-Chads-Orchard

Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 394
Location: Malpas, Cheshire

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 16 10:10 pm Post subject:
Issue seems to be with RM. Maybe try with the council getting the barn registered as a workshop & office, see if that makes a difference

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46291
Location: yes

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 16 10:53 pm Post subject:
at a slight tangent but if there is coverage would 4g wireless do the job?

Old-Chads-Orchard

Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 394
Location: Malpas, Cheshire

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 16 10:55 pm Post subject:
no coverage, gprs only

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 16 10:59 pm Post subject:
oh well tis wire then

Old-Chads-Orchard

Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 394
Location: Malpas, Cheshire

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 16 7:04 am Post subject:
think the issue is thee has to be a house or a business otherwise it doesn't exist in the eyes of RM. Will call the council up and see how I register the barn as a business premises, however I expect that is going to have cost implications for rates etc

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 16 1:05 pm Post subject:
BT are talking bollocks. How do you do think bus shelters etc get power, telemetry and advertising hoardings; register unoccupied lock up garages and storage etc https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/docs/collateral/products/addressbase-premium-intro.pdf

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 16 8:46 pm Post subject:

Old-Chads-Orchard wrote:

no coverage, gprs only

Try a MiFi with a direction antenna.

Our speed went from 1-3mb to 25-50mb with no other changes.

onemanband

Joined: 26 Dec 2010
Posts: 1473
Location: NCA90

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 16 11:25 pm Post subject:

Don't use BT.
I had a newly registered address on building plot, but as BT hadn't updated their database with RM database, I didn't exist and wasn't getting anywhere with BT.
So when EE cold-called me, I said "I'll have your broadband if you can get me connected".
I guess she was working on commission and fiddled the system (used neighbours address) to get my application past the computer that was saying no.
Couple of weeks later a BT engineer installed the line

Before my address was registered I did the same with my electric connection - got a cold-call and got them to sort it out..

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 25795
Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 16 8:04 am Post subject:
The old confusion again over two separate companies, BT Consumer and BT Openreach. EE is also part of the BT group. Anyway, I know you can't contact Openreach direct but I don't suppose there's any mileage in having a chat with a local BT engineer when you next see one about?

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 16059

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 16 8:12 am Post subject:
There often can be. They may know how to play the system to get broadband by one means or another. As far as postal addresses/post codes are concerned, event he police want one if you report an incident. I rather suspect if you were reporting a dead body, they might be able to find it on a map though.

onemanband

Joined: 26 Dec 2010
Posts: 1473
Location: NCA90

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 16 10:02 am Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

The old confusion again over two separate companies, BT Consumer and BT Openreach. EE is also part of the BT group.

Dunno about that - I'll take your word for it. All I know is cold-callers, presumably incentivised by commission, sorted me out without much hassle.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 16 11:55 am Post subject:

onemanband wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

The old confusion again over two separate companies, BT Consumer and BT Openreach. EE is also part of the BT group.

Dunno about that - I'll take your word for it. All I know is cold-callers, presumably incentivised by commission, sorted me out without much hassle.

I tried that with 3 dif suppliers. All pulled out when they got the Openreach quotes.

onemanband

Joined: 26 Dec 2010
Posts: 1473
Location: NCA90

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 16 6:45 pm Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

I tried that with 3 dif suppliers. All pulled out when they got the Openreach quotes.

Oh I still had to pay the install fees - they just got things moving where I kept hitting brick walls. Urban plot so the fees were relatively small.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46291
Location: yes

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 16 6:55 pm Post subject:
would this sort of thing be suitable?

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