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Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Location: South Wales

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 7:55 am Post subject:

Nick wrote:

Remind me why I like you two?

Must be our charm and wit.

Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 7:56 am Post subject:

jema wrote:

sean wrote:

I've been using my nose to type for the last 24 hours.

Got a Ryobi cordless angle grinder with a Saw blade attachment a few months ago, luckily our Sean seems to have the common sense to be too scared to use it, otherwise limbs would be flying everywhere.

Her will probably be along to refute that.

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 42219
Location: North Devon

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 5:09 pm Post subject:
Different Sean. And I'm not the person who angle-ground his thumb.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 5:54 pm Post subject:
It's almost healed.

sean
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 6:33 pm Post subject:
Nice scorch marks.

Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 9:34 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

Nice scorch marks.

poor disc

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 18 10:41 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

Nice scorch marks.

As I say, self cauterising.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 18 9:43 am Post subject:
It looks like a comet blazing a trail.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46247
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 18 10:05 am Post subject:
ouch, sympathies and thanks for the timely reminder about ppe

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 18 6:20 pm Post subject:
Hey, Sean. Grinders are for wimps. https://www.aldi.co.uk/workzone-inverter-welder/p/085506226214500?gclid=CjwKCAjw8uLcBRACEiwAaL6MSY1DGNgUxIQcDuz-M1Iru3rAHW1ZSzuGcDCxqBhY00NZGaPmu5LEWBoCHcAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIij196Jtt0CFYY8GwodC3sGqA

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46247
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 18 8:52 pm Post subject:

i prefer gas for most jobs but a stick welder is better for mending that sneaky leak from the petrol tank in a small space

is the instruction book for the welder as good as i imagine it might be?

the hat is rather imaginative, a blind* zen master approach to striking an arc while wearing a tea chest on yer face is not outside my welding skills but i was taught how to cope with that. im not keen on choking either

have fun

* with that sort of hat you need to get near , lower the face shield and then spark up.

the first bit is easy( unless you spark up with the hat raised), the subsequent bits can mess up big style as you can't see em

the "welders flick" is best taught rather than learnt by chance

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 18 8:36 am Post subject:

dpack wrote:

i prefer gas for most jobs but a stick welder is better for mending that sneaky leak from the petrol tank in a small space

Shall we start a H&S list for this one?

sean
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 18 9:59 am Post subject:
I wouldn't bother. I'm not buying one and Nick won't pay any attention if he does.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 18 4:31 pm Post subject:
I wore gloves and an exciting mask that went dark before my eyes burnt out.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46247
Location: yes

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 18 6:00 pm Post subject:

gloves and magic hat are essentials. magic hats are fun, fairly safe and avoid the flick which only works if you get it right.

good ventilation is always important especially so with coated metal such as galvanised mild steel micro particles of zinc oxide are nasty even by my standards of nasty.

a stiff breeze and a strong sense of self preservation is a decent start but either negative pressure venting for the work or positive pressure clean air supply for the worker are better.

when grinding and probably even more with power brushing a good dust mask rated for such tasks is sensible.

something to remember is that the arc produces a fair bit of uv so any exposed skin will get a suntan you really don't want. wrap up well unless you like skin grafts.
the spark up ionisation creates an emp which can trash delicate electricals if they are too close

it is easy to get heatstroke if you are well covered and welding in a tight space.

spelter can get in yer boots unless you prevent it .spelter thinks it funny to make you scream and hop before you go to hospital. ( i saw that one and how long it took to heal )
ditto into gloves but they are quicker to discard.
and in yer hair or down yer neck .
dreadlocks and welding dont mix , especially if they have been beeswaxed ( not me )

even hot bits of flux when chipping back can leave a stain if they get in a crevice.

a big h n s issue is bystanders , you have a magic hat and a delicate job to do, you will not notice bystanders. if they can look they will and even at 10m the arc will cause distress to a viewer.

re overalls: a tanksuit is pretty good at not catching hot lumps and reasonably flame proof

owt with open pockets can develop issues.

hot things stay hot for ages especially when picking them up or putting something on them.

don't blame me if you wear rigger boots, something with a well sealed bootneck is required.

that isnt really in any order of importance, all of them matter.

there are also the issues of learning to use the thing, the methods are pretty straightforward and easy to research. practise is the only way to gain the skills.

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