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dpack

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Posted: Thu May 16, 19 7:05 pm Post subject:
ps that was rather hard work for a couple of days but it looks better, is easier to use and i might even get a few things to crop this year.

Shan

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Posted: Thu May 16, 19 8:00 pm Post subject:
Mine are not nearly as technically tended but seem to be doing well.

dpack

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Posted: Thu May 16, 19 9:24 pm Post subject:

shan this is not technical , technical would be i can play with an EC meter or do even better by dead reckoning and reading the plants

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this is organic, compost and talk to the plants stuff and just as technical but less numerate and more skilled perhaps

i do like total environmental control but i also like muck n magick, both have a place and at times can be combined.

the first reason i am being so careful is that i have limited space and a bad history of dismal toms when i dont get it right and a few bumper crops when i got everything right.

and the second is so as others can follow the process
i must get the photos started but words sort of explain some things better as circumstances are easier to adapt to with words than pictures

at this stage the important thing is a big volume of good soil at the bottom that will provide water , oxygen and feed to the roots while giving them something to grow into as a mechanical support as well. (toms that are not earthed up are vulnerable to wind bend etc )
a 5" by 5" plant in a huge tub looks a bit lost but in a week or several the tub will look small compared to the top growth, same goes for planting direct into the ground, lots of well rotted and a big hole are good.

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 6:32 am Post subject:
I assume by 'technically tended' you mean you bunged them in and hope for the best Shan.

Shan

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 6:49 am Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

I assume by 'technically tended' you mean you bunged them in and hope for the best Shan.

More or less but then I have easier growing conditions than dPack.

dpack

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 11:33 am Post subject:

yours are about a month ahead of mine but as you do have them under glass in a sunny spot i would expect that.
they look good though, nice and bushy and getting ready to flower.

i will be adding radish, salads and some more herbs this week which if i had a south facing site would have been in for 2 months

i get half day sun from mid april to mid sept. outside that it is a few hours to nothing for the growing sites.
tis rather challenging and depends on a sunny morning for one, a sunny aft for two/three and sunny aft and evening for 4 which means all day sun for all of them to get half a day on their spot.

Shan

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 11:59 am Post subject:
They’ve got flowers on and I spotted 2 tomatoes. You can’t see the other side but I also have peppers, chills & pak choi along with some various other seedlings.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Fri May 17, 19 1:30 pm Post subject:
All the tomato plants I started from seeds all the way back in February as no taller that 2" tall and seemed to have stopped growing. What have I done wrong? I'm going to have to buy some plants I think.

Shan

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 1:32 pm Post subject:
Where have you got them growing?

sgt.colon

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 1:35 pm Post subject:
I started them off in a heated propagater and then they were in the shed in the prop but with the heat off and whilst we've had the warm weather on a sheltered but sunny wall up against the shed.

Shan

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 1:46 pm Post subject:
Have you potted them into bigger pots or are they in fairly small ones? The moment I transplant from a small pot into a big one, they tend to have a growth spurt.

sgt.colon

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 1:53 pm Post subject:
I did move them up to the next size pot Shan but it's not even like they were pot bound or anything when I did move them.

Shan

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 1:57 pm Post subject:
Hmmmmm, good quality potting soil? A photo of them would help.

sgt.colon

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 2:02 pm Post subject:
I'll get one sorted for you Shan. I think the compost was Westlands or something like that. I check on that also and get back to you.

dpack

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Posted: Fri May 17, 19 2:05 pm Post subject:

a several things spring to mind

as mentioned pot size matters if they are 2 ft tall something bucket size is appropriate and they are ready to move up to something about 50 ltr or so

the compost they are in might be nutrient deficient, bad at holding air and water or even toxic ( i had some "green waste" compost several years back and it still looks like a eco disaster in a small part of the under bramble bed )

they might just be a sickly bunch of plants or one of the many less than enthusiastic varieties for your particular conditions.

first is easy, pot em up.

the nutrient thing is easy just feed em and they will get on with it very soon.

the poor/ toxic compost thing will not respond to repotting as they will take it with them into the new tub.

if i had space i would try repotting those but also get some decent plants and different compost as back up which also covers the sickly/ unhappy plant thing

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