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dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 21 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ta MR i do sometimes see very good old ones in mixed boxes of stuff, when i can go out and about looking, i often ignore them if i don't need them

Forrest and hedge are now on the list

ps i recon i could put a nought on most of them and have a happy punter

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 21 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If the handles are in bad condition, rehandling may be an 'added value' option if you can do it without making the tool too expensive. Remember that most woodland workers aren't very flush with money.

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 21 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mistress Rose wrote:
If we can we always get Elwells as they are good quality and although pretty old, work beautifully. Not sure you would get the sort of mark up you would like as most woodland and craftsmen don't earn much, but if you got them for free or virtually nothing, might be worth while.


Notice the underside of the head Chris,it is curved like an Elwell,another Hatchet maker Howell`s of Pontypool made a similar Hatchet with the curved underside,they were taken over by Elwell`s in later years,in comparison the Whitehouse brand of Hatchets had a straight underside,all of them top quality steel.


https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139944200_10218079170799419_1865758502183218758_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=Tn_BDbX3EbwAX_PobuG&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=7d974312c12d178ca31445af267bba4a&oe=60456BAA

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 21 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a couple of £ will often extract an old tool from a house clearance box, so a quick polish and edge+handle might still be viable for both parties

often handles are in a better state than the metal, and half decent handles can often be moved from rubbish blades to good ones

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 21 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
Mistress Rose wrote:
If we can we always get Elwells as they are good quality and although pretty old, work beautifully. Not sure you would get the sort of mark up you would like as most woodland and craftsmen don't earn much, but if you got them for free or virtually nothing, might be worth while.


Notice the underside of the head Chris,it is curved like an Elwell,another Hatchet maker Howell`s of Pontypool made a similar Hatchet with the curved underside,they were taken over by Elwell`s in later years,in comparison the Whitehouse brand of Hatchets had a straight underside,all of them top quality steel.


https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/139944200_10218079170799419_1865758502183218758_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=Tn_BDbX3EbwAX_PobuG&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=7d974312c12d178ca31445af267bba4a&oe=60456BAA


nice axe(and handle) a bit heavier than mine which is Hudson bay pattern and old with a swedish woodman's handle
i found the head buried in a wood

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 21 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That particular Holcombe Hatchet is 6 1/2lbs,a repairers Hatchet for cutting out timber above ones head,a Whitehouse Colliers Hatchet is heavier at around the 9lbs mark for notching heavy timbers.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 21 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

beasty things, my general purpose axe is just under 2lb , the felling axe 4.5lb

speed and momentum seem to work for me

i don't think a 9lb would ever have been my thing, even my type of long handle breaking hammer or log splitter is around 5lb and very effective

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 21 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wider anecdotes becoming data

and exports to the EU are measured by data at minus 68%

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 21 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That looks like a really nice axe Ty Gwyn. We have a modern splitting axe and an old one, of unknown source for small jobs like kindling, although I do use it for cutting twiggy things, what we call Hampshire pimps or firelighter bundles, to length sometimes.

I am glad to report that Sainsbury's seem to have overcome their logistics problem on dried fruit at the moment, so let's hope they continue to do so.

Reading that report, I am unsure about the section on bees. One report I read seemed to indicate that someone was bringing in full hives of bees, which has for some time been banned by the UK to prevent importing bee disease. Even queens and nuclei have to be inspected before being allowed in, and this has been the case for years. It is probably correct about the problems with exporting honey.

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 21 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bigger businesses affected too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55997641

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 21 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Not according to Mr. Gove. Makes you wonder who to believe doesn't it.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 21 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

in these happy times i might start a string bag business

"what are you queuing for?"

"i have no idea"

" i will join you "

east german joke

anyone got a net making machine? i dont think i have seen one. back on that

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 21 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

plenty about, most look imported, not found a knitting machine afaik unless the pooter run beasty thing was

that one goes in the round file

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 21 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The traditional way is using a batten and a special 'needle' which looks a bit like a variation on a simple weaving stick shuttle. I have done it, but can't remember quite how to do the knots.

That joke may now be East German, but during WWII it was an 'in' joke as well. My father told me that people used to join a queue as they were sure there was something 'off ration' at the end of it.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 21 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i have a few, i thought they were rare, so far

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