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tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:33 pm Post subject:
Mine's called Suffolk (American I believe)

sean
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:36 pm Post subject:
If it's ungrafted then it's almost certainly American. Come to think of it if you consider that Phylloxera was introduced to Europe via England it's not surprising that the French don't like us much.

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:40 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

If it's ungrafted then it's almost certainly American.

Haven't checked, I bought it cos it was called Suffolk and I assumed it was East Anglian, I didn't research it till afterwards when all the references I could find were to an American variety called Suffolk Red

Tristan

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Location: North Gloucestershire

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:42 pm Post subject:
Early red seedless grape. I would suggest growing it in a greenhouse, either with the roots planted outside and the stem brought back in thro' a cut down pane, or in a bucket sized pot, moving up to a half barrel later. For training the cordon system is probably your best bet.

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:45 pm Post subject:
I was going to grow it as a cordon against a south facing wall

Tristan

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:47 pm Post subject:
That should work, especially if you can rig up a polythene curtain to protect from frost if the buds break early and possibly to help ripen the fruit in a poor summer

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:48 pm Post subject:
I think I'll plant our three grape vines out of their buckets this year as the vines seemed too restricted in them. I think they had problems getting water, even though I watered them a fair bit. As the ground is chalky they shouldn't go mad. Not sure how to keep the fox off of them though.

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:48 pm Post subject:
We don't get much serious frost, but that's a good point about ripening the fruit.

Tristan

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:50 pm Post subject:
Sounds disgusting, but peeing around the boundaries often works as foxes don't like the smell (plastic bottle useful if you've got neighbours)

Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 4:39 pm Post subject:
Tristan, the type i purchased was BACO 1 David

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 4:40 pm Post subject:
Is that the cultivar name?

DavidW

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 7:52 pm Post subject:
Tahai, i'm not sure, the BACO 1 label was attached to each of the plants when i purchased them. David

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 8:51 pm Post subject:
Where did you buy them?

tahir

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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 05 9:04 pm Post subject:

Yup it's a variety:

Baco noir (pronounced BA-koh NWAHR; Baco noir is also called Baco 1) is a hybrid wine grape variety produced from a cross of Vitis vinifera var. (Folle Blanche, a French wine grape) and a unknown variety of Vitis Riparia (an American wine grape).

Baco noir was first created by French wine hybridizer Maurice Baco (hence the name of the grape). Baco noir is mainly grown in New York state, in the United States.

Hopefully someone can give you some advice.

Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 05 9:59 pm Post subject:
I'll check this and post tomorrow Tristan

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