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tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brilliant

jema
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cab wrote:
Good news! My soap guru has promised us a little article on the subject


nice , I don't know how many articles we need to become a genuine resource, but if the promises we have all materialise, we will be getting close

jema

tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I haven't done a lot the last few days but hopefully some of the people that I've approached will submit articles, and with the glossary slowly building I'd say we are a resource already. We just need to get more users on board. Does anybody know 16011996? (Just wondered if it was a recommendation or somebody that had found the site of their own accord)

jema
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Not a name I recognise, so maybe new?

jema

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Looking at my John Seymour crafts book you can make Lye from wood ash and then make soap with that and oil. Has anyone tried it?

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You mentioned that you use disposable moulds, but is it really tough on them? I have lots of chocolate moulds that would make fantastic mini-soaps (frogs and fishes and things!) Obviously I use them for chocolate, so they would need washing, but would the soap ruin them?

They weren't massively expensive, so I could buy more I needed separate ones - they came from www.homechocolatefactory.com

cab



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Womble, I find that the molds survive repeated use, but sometimes it's a right pig getting the smell of any essential oils out.

cab



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lowlander wrote:
How much of it did you use - you just said a carefully measured quantity, but gave amounts for the other ingredients.


Got the numbers in front of me now. I've lost my back of an envelope from yesterday, though.

Saponification value for coconut ol is 0.190, so that's 19g per 100g of oil. I used 76g for 400g.

Sunflower oil and olive oil both have saponification values of 0.134; I used 400g sunflower, 200g olive oil. That's 80.4g, if my mental arithmetic is right.

So that's a grand total of 156.4g. I can't measure that accurately on my scales, so I measured out between 150 and 155, and relied on that small shortage of lye and allowing my hand to slip a tiny bit with the oil to do the superfatting.

The volume of vitamin e oil in this quantity, added at soft trace, was 2 teaspoons. The amount of essential and scent oils, and spice in the allspice soap, was 'some'

Sarah D



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 04 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks for that. I'm about to attack my bucket of wood ash in the very near future................. and have a go.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 04 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tahir wrote:
16011996?


She's a regular on MoneySavingExpert (where they call her 160 for short ). I posted a bit about DS yesterday on MSE's Old Style board (because I think a lot of people on here and on there are interested in the same things) and she's come to have a look. Hope she'll stay around (and I've already told her so!)

cab



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 04 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lowlander wrote:
Thanks for that. I'm about to attack my bucket of wood ash in the very near future................. and have a go.


I don't know how to go about making soap with wood ash. I would assume that the qualtity you need to add is very different to the qualtity of pure sodium hydroxide. Found any info on that?

tahir



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 04 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bugs wrote:
where they call her 160 for short


Well that's a bit catchier

Sarah D



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 04 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have instructions in several books for making lye from wood ash; it needs water to drip through it. Am looking for a suitable container just now.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 04 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Cab wrote:
Bugs, I don't know. I'll mull it over and have a look at my soap books.


Did you come across anything (about making liquid soap rather than solid?).

And...would you recommend any one book for a starting point? It's unlikely I'll get around to trying it for some time but it'd be interesting to learn a bit more.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 04 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

D'oh! Yes, I did find a couple of bits and bobs. No, I don't remember what they were now.

I'll look again when I get home and post later.

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