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Welsh Girls Allotment

Joined: 30 Sep 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Sunny South Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:36 am Post subject:

When we holiday in Burnham we take our daughter to the Animal Farm, she love it so much that we have taken an annual membership, I would love to do something like this, a little bit of everything and paying punters to top up your income, as with any business there are overheads, insurances etc but if you have a limited area for the public you would still be able to have a private few acres for other projects. https://www.animal-farm.co.uk/
You could also have a farm shop where you sell your own produce and locally produced and sourced items craft and edibles - ooh I'm giving away all my plans here

AnneandMike

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 890
Location: Over the hill and soon to be far away

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 7:23 pm Post subject:
Find a reasonable house that borders your land that is up for sale. PM me the info. I'll buy it and rent a couple of acres off you at, say �1000 per acre per year. Bingo.

hedgehogpie

Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 684
Location: Kent

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 7:59 pm Post subject:

You guys forgot bushcrafting. There is a real need for campsites that don't have flashy facilities, and which could/would allow well controlled campfires & the use of hammocks, bashas or tarps.

The kind of place where as long as there's water available and a tree to sling a hammock from your bushcrafter would be very happy indeed. Likewise, places where they can practise their hobby in peace, doing anything from learning to make debris shelters to foraging are few and far between. You could easily rent out a plain unaltered woodland to a local group and they are very likely to treat the place with a good deal more repect than paintballers.

Might not make you rich, but it could be a useful bit of income for the barest minmum of outlay - and as such places as few and far between, you could find yourself being very popular once word gets round.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 8:03 pm Post subject:
i would snap your hand off for an offfer like that. Only trouble is there are no house near my land & no way to get PP for a new one. justme

Green Man

Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 5272
Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:06 pm Post subject:

AnneandMike wrote:

Find a reasonable house that borders your land that is up for sale. PM me the info. I'll buy it and rent a couple of acres off you at, say �1000 per acre per year. Bingo.

You can buy an acre for �4000.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45685
Location: Essex

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:07 pm Post subject:

Cho-ku-ri wrote:

AnneandMike wrote:

Find a reasonable house that borders your land that is up for sale. PM me the info. I'll buy it and rent a couple of acres off you at, say �1000 per acre per year. Bingo.

You can buy an acre for �4000.

k9mike

Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 81
Location: Swansea

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:24 pm Post subject:
cho kuri where's the land ill be there tomorrow crap land this way at to mo is fetching 10k would have thought double that your way point me in the direction ill come buy some

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45685
Location: Essex

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:27 pm Post subject:

k9mike wrote:

cho kuri

where's the land ill be there tomorrow
crap land this way at to mo is fetching 10k
would have thought double that your way
point me in the direction ill come buy some

I agree with you, and if your requirement is just a couple of acres you can double or trebble that quite easily.

Last edited by tahir on Fri Mar 02, 07 9:27 pm; edited 1 time in total

Green Man

Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 5272
Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:27 pm Post subject:
https://www.uklanddirectory.org.uk/land-price-boom.htm This is the price for top quality fen land. I don't understand why a group of likeminded downsizers don't group together and buy a farm. that is by far the cheapest way for anybody to buy land. Hey you would even be entitled to E.U. payments also. Last edited by Green Man on Fri Mar 02, 07 9:32 pm; edited 1 time in total

alison
Downsizer Moderator

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 12918
Location: North Devon

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:30 pm Post subject:
I wouldn't think that is for single acres though. The more you buy the cheaper the price per acre.

Green Man

Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 5272
Location: Rural Scotland.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 9:34 pm Post subject:
As I have stated earlier, I have the offer of agricultural land rent free for ten acres. That is the current value up here as long as the farmer still gets the E.U. payments. So Anneandmikes's offer to rent at �1000/acre seems

crofter

Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 2252

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 10:05 pm Post subject:

Cho-ku-ri wrote:

As I have stated earlier, I have the offer of agricultural land rent free for ten acres. That is the current value up here as long as the farmer still gets the E.U. payments. So Anneandmikes's offer to rent at �1000/acre seems

You should haggle for a small payment to keep the land in Good Agricultural & Environmental Condition (GAEC) This is one of the conditions to receive the Single Farm Payment and it can be argued that you are doing the landowner a favour by keeping the land eligible.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 10:43 pm Post subject:

crofter wrote:

Cho-ku-ri wrote:

It's the same here, though I can't see a chance of haggling payment

crofter

Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 2252

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 11:09 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

crofter wrote:

Cho-ku-ri wrote:

It's the same here, though I can't see a chance of haggling payment

Why not? A farmer will lose money if he has to go to the trouble of keeping a flock of sheep or herd of cows to keep the grass down, it makes sense to pay somebody else a bit less than the likely loss on a livestock enterprise and simply sit back and bank the SFP.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 07 11:18 pm Post subject:
It may be for nothing, but there's still competition.

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