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Lloyd

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 12:58 am Post subject:
Good luck, Nettie. I'm doing similar with my patch, so will compare notes as we both progress!

jema
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 4:02 am Post subject:
For yield we have grown perpetual spinach which is quite phenominal.

cab

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 8:51 am Post subject:
Nettie, that sounds very like the gardening we first did here. Can I reccomend the addition of chard, which looks great (different coloured varieties), tastes good, and can be used in salads and a cooked vegetable? I've grown it in little troughs with great success.

nettie

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 1:21 pm Post subject:
Looks like I'm going to be picking your brains (again) then Cab!

cab

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 2:35 pm Post subject:

nettie wrote:

Looks like I'm going to be picking your brains (again) then Cab!

This is one of those tpics where brains barely need picking! The only thing to be aware of is getting the compost firm enough for some crops, like brassicas, and selecting the right varieties (short carrots!). Other than that, you do what it says on the seed packet and growig veg in containers is just about the same as growing them in the ground.

The other thing I've had great success with in pots in the last year or two has been tomatillos; pretty plants, quite unusual, and very tasty.

Got room (and inclination) for hanging baskets?

Bugs

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 2:43 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

The other thing I've had great success with in pots in the last year or two has been tomatillos; pretty plants, quite unusual, and very tasty.

What size pots did they finish up in, Cab?

We saw rainbow chard in person for the first time the other day; pictures don't do it justice. However, I have some white, and some red, ready to sow, so won't be growing it this year.

And Nettie, have you grown watermelons before? Have often been tempted, and we had reasonable success with melons in 2003 - but I thought watermelon was even touchier still so haven't dared.

cab

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 2:49 pm Post subject:

Bugs wrote:

What size pots did they finish up in, Cab?

Troughs, sort of window box size. Four plants to a trough. Did really well in there, we were eating tomatillos (green ones) for months. This year we'll put the seedlings in the ground, they'll sit nicely behind the strawberry plants in the garden.

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We saw rainbow chard in person for the first time the other day; pictures don't do it justice. However, I have some white, and some red, ready to sow, so won't be growing it this year.

It's a great plant is rainbow chard. The colours are marvellous; I put it at the back of beds for colour, and to provide salad and cooking 'greens' through winter. The red varieties are a bit 'beetrooty' for her, but I like them.

If I grew only one plant it would be sorrel. If I grew only two, the second one would be chard.

Bugs

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 2:54 pm Post subject:

[quote="cab"]Troughs, sort of window box size. Four plants to a trough. Did really well in there, we were eating tomatillos (green ones) for months. [quote]

Excellent - I was thinking they'd need a 9 inch or bigger pot at least to grow in a container. I've had so many seedlings of the green come up there might be room for some experimentation. Purple is being a bit slower though.

I've never tried chard, either. It sounds lovely though. Unfortunately, chickens like sorrel and I'm afraid they may have similar feelings about chard. Maybe containers would be worth an experiment there too.

Any tips for watering/lack of it? Some years we seem to spend morning to evening just watering, which can't be wise for anyone.

Nettie, didn't you say you use your bathwater? But you use much more natural soaps etc than us, I'll bet, and I'd be concerned about the contents being used on edibles. Am I over-cautious there?

cab

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 3:00 pm Post subject:

Bugs wrote:

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Excellent - I was thinking they'd need a 9 inch or bigger pot at least to grow in a container. I've had so many seedlings of the green come up there might be room for some experimentation. Purple is being a bit slower though.

I'm sure they'd be happier in a bigger pot, but we got absolutely loads from smaller containers. Had a tendency to dry out a little, but it didn't seem to affect the crop.

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I've never tried chard, either. It sounds lovely though. Unfortunately, chickens like sorrel and I'm afraid they may have similar feelings about chard. Maybe containers would be worth an experiment there too.

Sorrel is happy in containers. It's happy in the shade (as long as it gets SOME light). It's happy if the containers its in get flooded through winter. It's happy to be trodden on. It's happy to be in a pot left upside down for three months. It's a great plant

So long as you take the flower stalks on, it's the most useful and tasty plant in the garden.

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Any tips for watering/lack of it? Some years we seem to spend morning to evening just watering, which can't be wise for anyone.

You mean, watering the pots? Depends on the crop. If it's got a nice big root system, stand the pots in a tub of gravel and water (and feed) the pot of gravel. The extended root system will sop the water out of the gravel and you'll have about a fifth of the effort you were expending. Works well for tomatos.

Things like lettuce (less extensive roots) do fine in containers if you put lots of stones in the bottom and water very well straight into the stones (down a tube). You lose less water that way.

But at the end of the day, growing in containers means you need to be careful watering. No way around that

nettie

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 5:24 pm Post subject:

Hiya bugs, yes I do use the bathwater! And I do use natural soaps so I think it's OK, but I did hear Alan Titchmarsh urging folks to use their bath water on their flowerbeds once. Not sure how that bodes for food crops. It's my first attempt at watermelons this year so will let you know how I get on

A for tomatillos, well I'd love to try them, but haven't seen any seeds for sale round here. I shall keep my eyes open!

cab

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 5:26 pm Post subject:
Nettie, I get tomatillo seeds from Nickys Nursery (find them in the links section).

nettie

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 5:30 pm Post subject:
Thanks Cab

wellington womble

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 7:06 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

So long as you take the flower stalks on, it's the most useful and tasty plant in the garden.

But at the end of the day, growing in containers means you need to be careful watering. No way around that

Sounds like my kind of plant!

HDRA do several things that I plan to try for watering containers this year - I'm putting a lot of stuff in meat boxes on the patio. They do a grow bag watering kit, where you put water in a container, and attatch it to a drip feed-type system, and something called drippa taps (I think), which are just the taps that you plug into a plastic container any put the water in there - like those monstrously expensive big drippa things. I think a lot depends on the size of container, but they do at least allow you to recylce containers and are reletively cheap. I hope they will conserve water and patience by watering slowly and stopping it all running out of the bottom of the pot!

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hils

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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 05 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: An experiment in container veg growing

nettie wrote:

I've given up on the idea of the allotment, as the chap there hasn't got back to me, and time is marching on....Wish !

Don't give up - even if it takes a year to get it. I've had mine now for 2 1/2 years and really love it - there have only been a few occasions at the beginning where I thought 'what am I doing?', that was mostly down to having a 6 month old!

I still grow a few bits at home in pots which need more constant attention. You'll probably be better off getting an allotment mid autumn anyway so you've got all winter to do some good soil prep and not fighting against rampant triffids!

Deedee

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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 05 12:19 pm Post subject:
Wow Nettie sounds as if your garden is going to be similar to mine this year.We also only have a tiny plot but use anything and everything as containers for extra plants and I always space my plants a lot closer together than they say on the packs so I can just literally cram everything in I want! Best of luck in your experiment I would love to hear how it goes

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