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Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sat May 07, 05 1:10 pm Post subject:
Don't sopse you've thought about growing sugar beet or some other form of sugar? I'm tempted to give it a go to add the juice to wines one day.

cab

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Posted: Mon May 09, 05 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Tapping trees

farmwoody wrote:

Cab, is this something you've done?

No, so I'll be watching your progress with great interest

cab

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Posted: Mon May 23, 05 3:53 pm Post subject:
Is it now definitely too late in the year to tap a birch tree? There are three nice big ones in Bagpuss's garden within reach of an electric drill... I could tap them and plug them easily, but is it now far too late in the year?

tahir

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Posted: Mon May 23, 05 3:57 pm Post subject:
Everything i've ever read says that it should be as the sap is rising, i.e. it should be coming into leaf.

Lloyd

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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 05 11:08 pm Post subject:
Definitely too late, Cab. I have the same problem. I've been tapping my Maples for syrup, but they are more forgivving. The Birch now needs all its sap for foliage and vertical growth. You and I have missed that window, matey. Better luck next year.

alison
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 05 6:58 am Post subject:
I was too late here too. (and I did mine ages ago) All I got was about an inch in the demi john.

Blue Peter

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 05 11:19 am Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Don't sopse you've thought about growing sugar beet or some other form of sugar? I'm tempted to give it a go to add the juice to wines one day.

That's something that crossed my mind a while ago. What is sugar beet? and how do you get the sugar out?

Peter.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 05 11:27 am Post subject:

Blue Peter wrote:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Don't sopse you've thought about growing sugar beet or some other form of sugar? I'm tempted to give it a go to add the juice to wines one day.

That's something that crossed my mind a while ago. What is sugar beet? and how do you get the sugar out?

I'll dig out the details tonight, but it's a large swede like plant where the beet is chopped up and the sugary liquid pressed out. This liquid is then refined but I wander if it can be used in that state for wines and beers etc.

Blue Peter

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 05 11:57 am Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

Cheers. I wonder if something like a fruit press (Vigo) could be used to extract the stuff?

Peter.

sean
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 05 12:03 pm Post subject:
My favourite ever road sign, which I saw in France during the sugar beet harvest said: Attention aux Betteraves, loosely translated: Beware of the Beetroot.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 05 9:18 pm Post subject:

Blue Peter wrote:

Cheers. I wonder if something like a fruit press (Vigo) could be used to extract the stuff?

Sugar beet is Beta vulgaris var. esculenta and is related to other beets and bred from the wild sea-beet. Apparently it contains about 20% sucrose. I think the roots are chopped and the liquid extracted and refined.

I think It may be worth extracting the sugary liquid and adding direct to a wine. I'd use a hydrometer to check the sugar levels and it might even add something to the wine.

Tahir mentioned Tuckers do the seeds on this thread, so I think I'll try a packet next year: https://www.forum.downsizer.net/about744.html

Blue Peter

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 10:16 am Post subject:
Cheers, Peter.

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 10:36 am Post subject:
What about using a parsnip wine recipe on sugar beets??? You'd need to use the hydrometer as perhaps you may not need added sugar, and you could always add additional flavouring ingredients perhaps?

cab

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 10:38 am Post subject:

sally_in_wales wrote:

What about using a parsnip wine recipe on sugar beets???

It would certainly work, but you'll find recipes for sugar beet wine too I'm sure.

In truth, I make all my veg wines to more or less the same recipe anyway. I think I've only got three or four basic wine recipes, and everything is made using one of them.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 05 11:09 am Post subject:
I'm sure I've seen a manglewurzle wine recipe, may even be in one of Seymore's books. Anyone know if you can buy sugar beets for home use?

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