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Lloyd

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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 05 9:00 am Post subject:
Now that really would be a pain, and an expensive one at that! old horses are high maintenance!

jema
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 05 9:49 am Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

What about of the guy departs this mortal coil, is Tahir then responsible for them?

Legally i'd assume not. But then this thread is not about legal obligations. But even ethically you cannot always run around grabbing responsibility for "other peoples problems"

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 05 8:21 am Post subject:

jema wrote:

Jonnyboy wrote:

What about of the guy departs this mortal coil, is Tahir then responsible for them?

Legally i'd assume not. But then this thread is not about legal obligations. But even ethically you cannot always run around grabbing responsibility for "other peoples problems"

Fair point though. I might have to make enquiries.

There are only 2 horses which are out all the time, the rest of them seem to be stabled mostly (when we've been there) he has a little menage to excercise them in.

I've no idea on the welfare aspect, but it does seem to be overpopulated to me.

Lloyd

Joined: 24 Jan 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 12:18 am Post subject:
Tahir, will you be owning the land and then renting it back to the old boy?

jema
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 4:42 am Post subject:

Madman wrote:

Tahir, will you be owning the land and then renting it back to the old boy?

I think that is basically what Tahir is saying, I imagine though as sitting tenent, there is a legal obligation do do this. This obligation must transcend changes of ownerhip, since if it did not a tenency agreement would not be worth squat. Landords would just switch ownership to their wives etc and be able to tear up contracts

Gertie

Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 7:28 am Post subject:

Depends if you are like me and heart rules your head - otherwise my gut reaction would be to stay clear - if there are chances of any other properties coming up.

Lundy is the sensible one in our marriage (did I really say that!!!!!)

As Nettie will tell you the normal rule when having horses is one horse per acre, land will become so badly poached in the winter anyway with too many horses. I've been on different yards where different rules have applied - nowadays some yards will only turn out horses for a couple of hours in winter and max of 8 hours in summer. Being couped up in a stable for 22 hours a day isn't normally fun for a horse. Jas would go mental!!

If you were to get this place, Tahir, would you just run it as a DIY yard (in other words owners of horses sort them out - feed, turnout, muck out, etc).

Re: costs in our area you would look to pay between �6 - �12 a week just for grazing. If you offer the use of a stable you can get them round here for �15 a week. Mind you it's cheaper round here than down your way.

Must dash off to work - speak to you later.

jema
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 8:00 am Post subject:

Gertie wrote:

Depends if you are like me and heart rules your head - otherwise my gut reaction would be to stay clear - if there are chances of any other properties coming up.

Chances are though, the property price is reduced because of these very issues!

nettie

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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 1:01 pm Post subject:
To be honest it sounds as though most of these horses would shuffle off the mortal coil first, they don't tend to live much beyond 30. However if there are other liveries there you may be able to get them to leave, if there is reduced grazing some of them will probably go anyway. Will the other liveries be paying you direct too or are they paying this old boy?

tahir

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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 1:43 pm Post subject:

nettie wrote:

Will the other liveries be paying you direct too or are they paying this old boy?

They're paying him, I don't want to be involved at all.

tahir

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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 1:43 pm Post subject:

Madman wrote:

Tahir, will you be owning the land and then renting it back to the old boy?

Yup

tahir

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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 05 1:45 pm Post subject:

Gertie wrote:

If you were to get this place, Tahir, would you just run it as a DIY yard (in other words owners of horses sort them out - feed, turnout, muck out, etc)

I've no desire to be involved with horses, I'd much rather he went but he's not going to, till he does he says he's going to keep 9 horses on 3 acres.

Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 05 10:48 pm Post subject:
we are looking for a yard to store timber and bricks in the romford area. if u are not using the barn would u be interested in leasing it. please email if u interested to: [email protected] thanks john

tahir

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 05 7:35 am Post subject:

Anonymous wrote:

we are looking for a yard to store timber and bricks in the romford area. if u are not using the barn would u be interested in leasing it.
please email if u interested to: [email protected]

thanks john

It all fell through a long time ago, sorry.

hils

Joined: 08 Mar 2005
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Location: Nottingham

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 05 8:47 am Post subject:

Tahir - I'm having a similar problem but with cows!
You can draw up another contract with him which will enable him to a few more years but there is a clause which COULD get him off in a years time if you pay him 2 years worth of rent. This will all depend on when he took out his origional contract ie whether it was before or after 1994? (may be 96 but I'll look for you my mind has been on over load with this).
The problem I'm having is with my grandmothers estate. She left it equally between her sons but one of them (not my dad) is choosing to exercise his farming rights and not the will of his dead mother. He took out a contract with his mother on one side of the new legislation but didn't start paying till the other, the ruling says if you are a farm tenant and your landlord dies you are entitled to farm that land until you die! but as I mentioned above there is a small clause which you can pay him 2 years rent to get him off...

Will look for dates for you if you like.

tahir

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 05 8:51 am Post subject:

hils wrote:

Will look for dates for you if you like.

Thanks hils but I got gazumped on that one. Good luck with yours

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