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RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 12:50 pm Post subject:
Well i am now a fully licenced Lobster, crab, prawn & whelk potter. Licenced just arrived in the post. All I need now is some pots RichardW

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 1:04 pm Post subject:
Whelk pots you can make yourself. Considering it's home consumption, a couple of parlour pots should be sufficient for crab and lobster.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 1:19 pm Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

Whelk pots you can make yourself.

Considering it's home consumption, a couple of parlour pots should be sufficient for crab and lobster.

Yeh I have seen the local ones on the harbour wall. 25L plastic barrels with holes in & a weight. Been keeping my eye out for some parlour type pots but to be honest any that come along at the right price will do. Most are either new (and cosltly with the delivery) or so baddly damaged they are only good for decoration in garden themes.

RichardW

IanNW

Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Flintshire, North Wales/India

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 2:06 pm Post subject:
you thought of trying to fashion some yourself, it would appear you are handy at that king of thing from previous posts on the forum. Some metal grills and the damaged net you have to try with?

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 3:31 pm Post subject:

IanNW wrote:

you thought of trying to fashion some yourself, it would appear you are handy at that king of thing from previous posts on the forum. Some metal grills and the damaged net you have to try with?

Yeh have considered it. The net I have is to far far weak to hold a crab. If some of the right sort of net comes along I prob will. Was thinking along the lines of a wooden base with blue water pipe for the frame & strong netting.

RichardW

IanNW

Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Flintshire, North Wales/India

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 4:11 pm Post subject:
Have a look on Ebay, there is some similiar to the ones you described. Wooden base with Blue plastic piping and 50mm netting attached.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 08 4:14 pm Post subject:

IanNW wrote:

Have a look on Ebay, there is some similiar to the ones you described.

Wooden base with Blue plastic piping and 50mm netting attached.

Thats where I got the idea lol.

RichardW

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 08 8:58 pm Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

IanNW wrote:

you thought of trying to fashion some yourself, it would appear you are handy at that king of thing from previous posts on the forum. Some metal grills and the damaged net you have to try with?

If ye can't make or mend then don't use it! Seems your like the bicycle owner who wants to try formula 1, looks good but you haven't much of a clue. Walk before you can run should be your watchword! Get a couple of years in using a handline, drink in the local fishermans pub and become friends with them..............they just might help if you can convince them your not trying to steal their livlihood which it seems to me you are!

And your cheap monofilament net will keep on fishing and killing things long after you've lost it! And lose it you will, sooner or later

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 08 9:06 pm Post subject:

fisheagle wrote:

they just might help if you can convince them your not trying to steal their livlihood which it seems to me you are!

And your cheap monofilament net will keep on fishing and killing things long after you've lost it! And lose it you will, sooner or later

How? I dont catch that much (I wish) & def dont sell any.

Also the nets long gone but not at sea. Twas rubbish so its been destroyed.

Richard

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 08 7:41 pm Post subject:

In the first instance try talking to them.........go to the pub they use and get into conversation (like anybody else they'll talk to people) get to know them, don't rush, tell 'em you have a boat and ask for a few tips, how to look after it or something - you may be the boating worlds answer to Gordon Brown and know everything there is to know about boats - but unlike Gordon you don't have to brag about it, just quietly ask, and agree................then follow the lead

Glad to hear you've got rid of the momofilament properly, nasty things monofilament. Too damn comprehensive!!

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 08 8:52 pm Post subject:

fisheagle wrote:

but what has that got to do with me pinching their trade?

Richard

fisheagle

Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 08 8:41 pm Post subject:

You're going after the same fish ain't ye? that in their eyes is tatramount to pinching their trade - you're not buying from them either are ye? that be if'n you are sucessful! Once upon a time it was no bother there was plwenty of fish in the sea........these days fish is a rare thing.

Oh by the way when ye get round to making yer own pots remember a plastic bucket with the bottom punched (cut) out of it makes a fine spout, if its a reasonable distance off the bottom the crab / partan won't get out of it - too stupid!! Mind you if you pick up regular by the time it's rested after eating the bait its in your pot, or on your plate!

Have you tried making your own nets, the amount to fill in a panel of a pot isn't all that big! There's a few books out there on netting shouldn't be to hard to find one! If not how familiar are you with the names of knots and the like? might have a go at teaching you at a distance.....could be interesting, if your willing to have a go that is!

carlseawolf

Joined: 30 Mar 2009
Posts: 98
Location: Ilfracombe , North Devon

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 09 8:47 am Post subject:

Hi Richard,
I'm new to this forum and just read this post and i may be able to clear up some of these questions as i was a fisherman for 18 years.

1 - There is special sized mono netting for spider crabs that has a mesh of between 8"- 10" that only catches crab and any larger fish like ray.

2 - fishermen are a funny bunch , all will be friendly towards you and 99% will be honest but like any trade there are bad ones.

3 - don't go buying the same gear as the locals as next time you go to pull your shiny new pots they may not be there ( try finding ten pots out of there big stack on the quay.

4 - I take it your licence is a local sea district licence with there powers extending to 6 miles , these can often be diffrent to the common fisheries policy rules out side of the 6 mile limit.
Check to see the diffrence and where the limits are as an island can extend the limit.

5 - the creels you are mentioning on e-bay sound like prawn creels and would be eligal to use for crab as the mesh is to small.
When you first set your pots leave them a least a day to soak because all the air in the wood or plastic will come making a loud scream and the crab will just stay clear of the pot what every bait you put in it.

6 - fresh bait for lobster , smelly bait for crab.

7 - You don't need to find out where the fisheren are catching crab as you are doing it on a diffrent scale and they have pots on strings up to 100 so need the sea room to set them.
Smaller areas around rocks will produce crabs/ lobsters and even the possibility of a monster , and makes it harder for the commercial guys to move into your patch.

8 - setting lines or nets on the beach at low tide can be a good income in winter when boat journeys are not possible - but check local bye laws as beach netting is illigal in cornwall.

crofter

Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 2252

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 09 2:10 pm Post subject:

carlseawolf wrote:

6 - fresh bait for lobster , smelly bait for crab.

I would suggest the opposite way round?

bakersbread

Joined: 03 Apr 2009
Posts: 2

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 09 3:34 pm Post subject:

Helllo RichardW
Re your message, as an ex fisherman can i give you a small bit of advice re mid water,bottom (tangle nets) if for any reason you cant get to your nets they will carry on fishing and any fish will rot and the net will lift and carry on fishing.I have hauled in nets full of dead crabs,fish etc and they were stinking.They are fine if you shoot your nets and lines and recover in 2/3 hours.Also in a fast tide it is suprising how far they can drift.

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